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    Last edited by HeyCori; 06-19-2013 at 03:54 PM. Reason: Thread title. Better for sticky.
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    That had better not screw up all the cool new sharing abilities we would have had. :(
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    Just to add to the thread

    Started off as a rumor:

    http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/mi...-dr/1100-4673/
    The PA Report - “Inside sources” state that Microsoft may pull a 180 on DRM requirements
    Microsoft to backtrack on Xbox One games DRM and "always online" | whathifi.com

    Then Xbox Wire updated their site:

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    Update on June 19, 2013: As a result of feedback from the Xbox community, we have changed certain policies for Xbox One reflected in this blog. Some of this information is no longer accurate — please check here for the latest.
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    Fearing the great PS4 already!

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    THE RULES HAVE CHANGED

    Your Feedback Matters

    Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience.

    For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.

    Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.

    You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.

    So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:

    An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.

    Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.

    In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console -- there will be no regional restrictions.

    These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.

    We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds.

    Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year.
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    I will be most disappointed. Most of the hysteria is based around misinformation, or information Microsoft should have detailed more specifically.
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    Only thing holding me back was the 24 hour check in. If I can play offline all I want, then it's time to preorder this.
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    What's the misinformation? Most of the hysteria has been spot on.
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    Is this going to win pre-orders? I think it is likely just as risky of a move as sticking to their guns. Time will tell, but I don't see the internet throngs praising Microsoft for anything that they would do.

    EDIT: Looks like family sharing is out. Stupid internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyCori View Post
    These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.
    ...does that mean that the games won't follow you, and there is no family share?
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    Loss of family share sucks. Ignorance wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curseoftheninja View Post
    ...does that mean that the games won't follow you, and there is no family share?
    That's what I'm wondering. I'm guessing so with the lack of online requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curseoftheninja View Post
    ...does that mean that the games won't follow you, and there is no family share?
    Yep, exactly. Basically all the cool new follow you / share features have gone and it is just like the old one - just like everyone wanted 😞
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    To be fair, Microsoft hasn't said if the family share system was gone or not. Microsoft could still allow family share but maybe only for downloaded titles and maybe five friends instead of ten.
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    nice! now we cant share our games with people around the world. and of course we have to carry our discs whenever we go. now I wonder if you can still use one gold account to "share" it with silver members in the same console.
    I like how the new Microsoft listens to 1. people who wouldnt even buy Xbox one. 2. stupid Xbox users who didnt even have clear how it would work.
    now we should be happy we can have a crappier DRM like EA and other big publishers try to give :)

    but of course, its cool to have real family around the world and then not being able to buy the games and share it with them. thats my favorite new feature :)
    thank god for this over dramatic and stupid humanity, and thanks Microsoft for listen to them!

    PS, of course they didnt directly say share feature would be gone. but for the way they worded it, I think it only means share feature would be gone.
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    i dont really think they needed to pull a 180 on this. They just needed to make this an option or a mix of both. you can play offline just as a 360 would without the internet, but if you had internet and were connected you could do all of the cool next gen stuff like the family share and playing without the disc in tray. and they could do the sell/trade your digital copy once and keep disc trading the same. They did the best of both worlds with windows 8 (desktop/tablets) why not with xbox (online/offline)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyCori View Post
    To be fair, Microsoft hasn't said if the family share system was gone or not. Microsoft could still allow family share but maybe only for downloaded titles and maybe five friends instead of ten.
    They did say its gone, its in the article on their main page:

    "These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray. "
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    Finally! Someone was actually thinking properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curseoftheninja View Post
    ...does that mean that the games won't follow you, and there is no family share?
    You'll probably have to buy all your games digitally if you want your library to follow you....which is what I plan to do. Family sharing is dead lol ... which sucks T_T

    These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchueyF1 View Post
    Loss of family share sucks. Ignorance wins.
    God help us it is true, the average person is a complete ***** and screws it up for the rest of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xithryl View Post
    They did say its gone, its in the article on their main page:

    "These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray. "
    I even read that and for some reason it just didn't register. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonKruys View Post
    Yep, exactly. Basically all the cool new follow you / share features have gone and it is just like the old one - just like everyone wanted
    In hindsight what if what "everyone wanted" had prevented steam from becoming what it is today? At least we got that one pushed through. :(
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    So, what about the ability to seamlessly and instantly jump from one game to another? Is that dead now too?

    I wish they would gives us the choice to 'opt in' to the sharing stuff. Those that opt-in get the 24 hour check, but they can share. All my friends were going to do it...

    Really disappointed that the digital sharing features are dead. Especially with the rumor that Steam is going to support it....
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    I was fairly critical of the way Microsoft was presenting things, but I actually didn't have much of an issue with the policies themselves. I think they just did a terrible job of presenting good ideas, and now it has resulted in them abandoning those good ideas. I saw it as mainly a communication issue, but I think the hysteria may have gotten to the point where they couldn't have talked their way back out of it.
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    CRAP!

    Dang whiners.

    Thanks for ruining it for the rest of us.

    "These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One," Mattrick noted. "The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold."
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