- 05-18-2013, 03:26 PM #1
GDR1 - GDR3 are primarily about bug fixes and adding smaller features requested by OEMs. No major new OS features can be expected from any of them.
GDR2 should bring "some much-needed Xbox music app fixes". If that is true, GDR2 will be the first version of WP8 that isn't a functional downgrade from WP7.
We could possibly get WPB and still not have VPN support.
Allegedly, the Windows Phone team thinks that the current base phone operating system is largely good enough for now.
- 05-18-2013, 04:00 PM #2
The biggest fix I'm hoping for in Xbox Music is that damn split second skip when streaming, about 15 seconds before the next song comes on. It drives me crazy.
Still, the types of changes we're hearing about just don't sound like enough with so much needed in WP.
05-18-2013, 04:26 PM #3
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All the news i've read about GD2 has been pretty underwhelming so far, with Nokia (as usual) adding the more interesting features.
If Microsoft haven't added at least some of the top requested features over at the Uservoice site for Windows Phone, then more people are going to abandon Ship.
I would say the current base phone operating system has unfulfilled potential, but they certainly shouldn't be sitting around thinking it's 'good enough for now'.
05-18-2013, 04:28 PM #4
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Sounds awful. MS will lost market if they will only fix, but don't produce any new features.
I don't care about Bugdriod, but if Apple will add a lot of new features in next OS/Iphone, I definitely will forget about MS forever as mobile OS company.
Currently WP is like a big ill child. :(
- 05-18-2013, 04:59 PM #6
- 05-18-2013, 05:34 PM #7
I was expecting a bit more than just fixes and an updated chassis spec. Not a lot more, since I understand they are still primarily working on low level OS integration tasks, but nevertheless more.
It feels like WP8, at the end of 2013 and from a consumers point of view, will be no further along than WP7 was.
Their rediculously stupid shut-up mantra isn't helping me figure out where WP is going either, so I'm ever less certain what MS' vision for WP is, and and if the potential I see will ever be realized.
05-18-2013, 07:53 PM #8
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Some people come out and say "Oh well they're going at the same pace or even slightly faster than Apple and Android". Trouble is, they're not Apple or Android, so they need to be going faster, those two are coming up to lap Windows Phone.
The features that people are crying out for on the Uservoice site need to be pushed out, not waiting almost another year for the next 'big' update. I'm willing to stick with Windows Phone, but for a lot of people this will all be too little too late.
05-19-2013, 03:05 AM #15
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im not expecting any major features from GDR1 - GDR2 - GDR3 they are called minor updates for a reason but im expecting a lot of features from Blue since its a major update and before they add any major features there is a need for making the OS solid as a rock, when they finally accomplish that goal then they can put what ever they want
- 05-19-2013, 07:28 AM #22Let's refrain from posting insults and other nonsensical things that don't contribute to the topic at hand.
I think MS is doing fine with the updates, we are getting 3 in one year including one big one. I feel that blue for the most part will bring in all the requested features. WP is stronger than ever now and things can only go upward rather than down.
- 05-19-2013, 07:39 AM #23
- 05-19-2013, 08:24 AM #24
To clarify, I wasn't expecting major features from these interim updates either. I was expecting at least a few superficial things though. Things that didn't go any deeper than the UI, such as better volume control or a somewhat more feature rich IE UI. At the top of this year I assumed that the quickened release schedule was at least in part to add such features (and obviously bug fixes), as WP8 was no doubt released on a very tough time schedule.
I didn't create this thread as another place to complain about MS slow progress. Like I said, much of this is due to MS still adjusting the foundation. While the foundation is still being reengineered, it simply isn't possible to efficiently build more on top of it. The number of employees assigned to that task doesn't change much. I've personally worked on projects where adding more employees, in an attempt to accelerate the pace, achieved nothing but to make things even worse. Most industry veterans will tell you that is the rule, not the exception. Software development isn't comparable to an infinitely scalable assembly line.
I'm more interested in what you guys assume MS is thinking at this point? How do you imagine they manage priorities? How do you think MS would describe WP's target audience, and do you think we are in it?
I know that is all speculation. I don't think we can really judge until WPB is released. Unfortunately, speculate is all we can do.
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