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  1. andreujuanc's Avatar
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    Hello!,

    My company gave me a 920 so i started to play with it. One of the first things to to play with was NFC. Seems cool so i bought got a 4 tags pack.
    Then I downloaded almost every app on the store, and I think its useless on WP. Why? It only allows you to launch apps or settings pages (which are just apps) and no nothing more. I know it could be addressed with some code on the side of the developers, but i dont really care on doing some stuff with 3rd party apps.

    What I wanted was to have control over MY phone and for example, turn off WIFI, or change the volume, Airplane mode ON, and so on. but it only opens the according app and waits for the user to do the rest. So what are NFC tags for? Shortcuts? expensive shortcuts, if like WP didn't have already a nice UI were i can organize things..

    If someone knows how to achieve what I want, please, let me know..

    Thank you, and I hope i wrong about this..

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    After I got my phone I did almost exactly the same thing (bought a pack of NFC tags to play with) and felt exactly the same way you do (why does it just open the page and not toggle Wifi/bluetooth on and off?)

    Unfortunately that's one of the (many) restrictions the OS enforces in the name of security; you can only do certain things such as navigate to an address or launch certain apps. Useless? Almost. I don't use NFC anymore.

    ...but from my experience a lot of people on this forum will try to tell you that's (somehow) a good thing.
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    Hey,

    I understand somehow it could be a security issue, but Microsoft and Nokia have plenty of resources to address this situation. At least I can think of a few ways to fix it, but of course i dont work for Microsoft.

    But then what I dont understand why the phone requires User interaction to "accept" the query? Like preventing people to open your WIFI page ? haha..

    The Prompt its a good idea, and prevents unrequested queries, and i think it should be good enough to allow access to a few areas..

    Another solution could be phonewide tags, where u program a task that only works with your phone, that would be even more secure..

    But somehow no one can think of that at Microsoft..
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    The reason why I like the query aspect (do you want this to happen) is so that is some smart-alec tries to scan your phone for your credit card details, it has to check for it. I know my student card at uni uses NFC as well as my bus pass. Just encrypted NFC. Don't want an NFC-enabled bank card though... Would rather wait for my NFC enabled NL920 to get it. Also, anyone know how to unlock this in the UK (we don't have ISIS card)?

    "Fortune cookie said: 'Outlook not so good'. I said: 'Sure, but Microsoft ships it anyway'."
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    already try from the nokia ones ?
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    I'm not going to say useless but I will say severely handicapped. Form a user's perspective it would be heaven to be able to turn on/off Bluetooth, wireless, and/or other services depending on location and without prompts.

    Come on Microsoft!!
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    I haven't touched it since day 1 of owning the phone, its too crippled. With my Android phone I had tags in the home and car and used it often, but not at all now.
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    The tags are pretty much useless. You CAN use NFC for "Tap and send" to share files and pics, etc. but even then you have to turn on BT besides. Kind of pointless but at least the option is there. The NFC and tags on the Glaxasy S3 are much more flexible but when it comes right down to it, it's not a deal killer for me, just something extra to play with.
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    Lack of NFC payments is a huge letdown for me. I was really looking forward to it, because my wife and I have to share one debit card, but ISIS had to handicap it back (which will never get released). I wish Microsoft had their own payment service similar to Google Wallet.
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    Setting volume levels would pretty useful too (I don't know if that is possible)... And I don't mean only mute/unmute... I mean setting volume to specific levels... For instance in my car I always want it maxed out so the Bluetooth streaming of music has all volume possible when going into the car stereo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    The reason why I like the query aspect (do you want this to happen) is so that is some smart-alec tries to scan your phone for your credit card details, it has to check for it. I know my student card at uni uses NFC as well as my bus pass. Just encrypted NFC. Don't want an NFC-enabled bank card though... Would rather wait for my NFC enabled NL920 to get it. Also, anyone know how to unlock this in the UK (we don't have ISIS card)?
    That doesn't even make sense. Why spread such misinformation? There is no way for a tag to scan your phone and receive your card details. There isn't even a way for a payment receiver to do this unless you approve it.
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    Short answer: Yes.
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    It is a gimmick, there isnt a real NEED for NFC, it is there as a feature seller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkp23 View Post
    It is a gimmick, there isnt a real NEED for NFC, it is there as a feature seller.
    speak for yourself. On the other platform, its great and has many uses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connie Litrenta View Post
    The tags are pretty much useless. You CAN use NFC for "Tap and send" to share files and pics, etc. but even then you have to turn on BT besides.
    I may be wrong but I thought that's the way NFC normally worked: The phone uses NFC to initiate the handshake but the actual file transfer had to happen via BT?
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    Just got my nfc tags for my Lumia 620, dissatisfied that all the actions you can program, just prompt you to open the app, webpage etc. Pretty pointless might as well just pin a tile to the home screen.



    A great feature let down by the Os not giving the permission to open things directly.

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    I don't think its useless, I think the issue is its a new technology that hasn't been adapted yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nimdock View Post
    Setting volume levels would pretty useful too (I don't know if that is possible)... And I don't mean only mute/unmute... I mean setting volume to specific levels... For instance in my car I always want it maxed out so the Bluetooth streaming of music has all volume possible when going into the car stereo.
    My phone... the Nokia 920 already sort of does this on its own.... its like it has multiple profiles... when I am not in my car it has my normal volume setting (around 5)... but when I get into my car and it connects to the Bluetooth there it automatically switches to volume 30 (or where ever I last had it when in the car)... then once out of the car the volume automatically reverts to the level it was before... I don't recall it doing this before the portico update.
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    I'm getting into WP8 soon, but this sucks. I loved using the NFC on my GNex to toggle BT and WIFI. Is there at least any third-part apps that let you toggle these settings from a tile or no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jm1219 View Post
    I'm getting into WP8 soon, but this sucks. I loved using the NFC on my GNex to toggle BT and WIFI. Is there at least any third-part apps that let you toggle these settings from a tile or no?
    No, you can only open the settings window, like the wifi on/off toggle screen, not modify the state.

    I'd expect them to update it with a list of 'trusted tags' (as every tag has an ID as far as I know) which allow for more functionality in the future, but currently it's not super useful, yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by format View Post
    My phone... the Nokia 920 already sort of does this on its own.... its like it has multiple profiles... when I am not in my car it has my normal volume setting (around 5)... but when I get into my car and it connects to the Bluetooth there it automatically switches to volume 30 (or where ever I last had it when in the car)... then once out of the car the volume automatically reverts to the level it was before... I don't recall it doing this before the portico update.
    Really? OK, WTH?... I don't recall mine doing that... Which annoys me because I have to take it out of my pocket to increase the volume and sometimes I forget... Now I am wondering if it was a case of me having to do it with my previous phone and maybe I just have been doing it for this one... Or maybe your stereo does something than mine does not and interacts with your phone to increase the volume... I'll see what happens next time I get into my car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by format View Post
    My phone... the Nokia 920 already sort of does this on its own.... its like it has multiple profiles... when I am not in my car it has my normal volume setting (around 5)... but when I get into my car and it connects to the Bluetooth there it automatically switches to volume 30 (or where ever I last had it when in the car)... then once out of the car the volume automatically reverts to the level it was before... I don't recall it doing this before the portico update.
    My goodness, you were right. I just had to go out to my car and try. :D ... My HTC Arrive did not do this for me (I have an L920 now). This is great!!!! Thank you for your post!
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    I don't think its useless, I think the issue is its a new technology that hasn't been adapted yet.

    I don't think it us that hard to work out, it either Opens up an application, link etc or it doesn't.

    That us the way it has been written to the Os, so it is the decision if Microsoft to have it that way on Windows Phone.

    It is like pointing your remote at your tv to turn the volume up and than getting asked if you want to do it. Of coarse you want to do it you wouldn't press it otherwise. So the nfc on Windows phone is errm, useless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nimdock View Post
    My goodness, you were right. I just had to go out to my car and try. :D ... My HTC Arrive did not do this for me (I have an L920 now). This is great!!!! Thank you for your post!
    Does this on my 8x as well - as soon as the bluetooth is paired in my car or to my jambox the volume automatically goes to 30, alarms are always 30 and its set at 12 all day for music and notifications
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    Quote Originally Posted by martinmc78 View Post
    Does this on my 8x as well - as soon as the bluetooth is paired in my car or to my jambox the volume automatically goes to 30, alarms are always 30 and its set at 12 all day for music and notifications
    Nice, so maybe like format mentions it could be a Portico thing. :D

    (Now you're goint to tell me you don't have Portico). In that case it might be a WP8 thing. :P
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