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    I just wanted to know what the deal is with 1080p displays on smartphones. Do we really need 1080p on such small displays? I had one experience I remembered when buying LCD/LED TVs most of the sales person says that on a 32 inch display you don't need 1080p because the differences are so minute so a 720p display will do and they are correct. I don't even bother to download 1080p movies because of its sheer size well not unless you are watching Basic Instinct and you really want to zoom your heart out at that interrogation scene.

    Anyway this is the strategy of some WP haters that WP is not 1080p ready and it needs to do so in order to catch up with Android or iOS. Do you really need a quad core 2GB RAM 1080p displays on cellphones? Heck my Lumia 800 was smooth as butter and it only had 1 core CPU and my Lumia 620 runs perfectly fine on its current specs. I think this is a marketing ploy to make us believe that having the most outrageous specs means you are the best smartphone which is BS in my opinion.

    Anyways, WP has a long way to go in terms of market share but I think it will get there maybe not sooner but later.

    What do you think?
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    People said 320x240 screens were perfect for smartphones. Glad we didn't stick to that.


    Just saying.
    Last edited by FinancialP; 02-28-2013 at 10:57 PM.
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    Movies, picutres and videos look awesome in 1080p. Why use old technology when there is newer and much better technology available? New technology helps us keep inventing more things
    -Verizon HTC 8x Blue
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    1080 on a phone is definitely a marketing gimmick. And it increases battery usage btw. Unfortunately, without it we will soon be viewed as "behind" on the tech front. So they will need to do it.
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    Totally agree with you here. Yes 1080p will look a bit clearer with the right content, but the amount of battery drain doesn't seem worth it to me at least, CPU will have to work double over 720p. But hey if 1080p is released sure why not....... Its kind of the same thing about 4K TVs sure they look amazing shen you're 2 feet away from it, but who's going to sit 2 feet away from a 50" TV? Lol its gimmick.....now OLED is amazing.
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    I have seen the HTC Butterfly with its 1080p screen. Sure, it is nice, but not any nicer than the Lumia 920's screen. My eyes are certainly not capable of seeing any improvement, and most analysts agree that anything above 320ppi is a sales gimmick. Well, the have to come up with something to sell new devices when the old ones are still perfectly alright.
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    GIMMICK!

    Of course 80" screen size need 4K... 40" need 1080p... for 10" 5" 4" 3" 720p more than enough.. (for human I like me)

    If you are robot with microscope eyes go for bigger resolution.
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    There is no serious argument for higher then 720p on a smartphone size display. It's already perfectly sharp, that's why they call it "Retina" display. Windows Phone has much bigger problems like how the other storage keeps growing, no notification center, no VPN, no gapless playback and a 1000 other holes. The display not being 1080p is the LEAST!
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    I use a Lumia 822 and I really don't notice much difference between 480x800 and 720P displays on phones, but when I do I really don't care much. I guess I'm probably just the minority that only care about the phone showing text and pictures properly :P
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    Perfectly OK is good enough with a $250 phone. With a $650 phone you need the best.
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    Homosapians are evolving the eye-sight of a hawk...didn't you know that? This is why we NEED 1080p of a phone.

    Device: O2 HTC Windows Phone 8X 16Gb
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoledman View Post
    There is no serious argument for higher then 720p on a smartphone size display. It's already perfectly sharp, that's why they call it "Retina" display. Windows Phone has much bigger problems like how the other storage keeps growing, no notification center, no VPN, no gapless playback and a 1000 other holes. The display not being 1080p is the LEAST!
    "Retina" is an Apple-coined term for their QHD resolution screen. (540xSomething) With a sub-4" screen that's all you need to not be able to discern pixels. At 4.5" 720p is just as sharp. As you approach 5" or more, you can start to see pixels. (depending on your eyesight) I can see the pixels on my 4.8" Ativ S, but it's not a big problem. I would love a 1080p display on this size phone to get the "retina" experience, but not at the cost of battery-life. It's a phone first, and needs to be my lifeline if I hit the ditch on my way home from work in the winter. Once they make the next big advance in battery tech I may look seriously at a 1080p phone, but 4.8" is my absolute maximum for usability.
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    If you open a photo editor on your computer and put in 480 by 800 that size photo is bigger then a 5" screen a phone
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    Quote Originally Posted by purefire21 View Post
    If you open a photo editor on your computer and put in 480 by 800 that size photo is bigger then a 5" screen a phone
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    Its true
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    So how are you liking that 620? Which color did you get? I wouldn't mind having a 620...
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    Glad you asked. I really like it a lot, in fact I have given my iPhone 4S to my wife. I got the lime green. Now everybody seems to look at me an wonder what phone I've been using. The phone looks tiny compared to iPhone but really screen wise its bigger. It may not best iPhone 4S for screen but the Lumia 620 screen is good enough. At its price point its a really a steal and represents overall value for money.

    Batter life is almost the same as iPhone 4S but this is a small gripe that's why I always charge whenever I can. Hopefully, a replacement high capacity will be available soon. I never bothered to put screen protector and casing because that's how I like my phones.



    Quote Originally Posted by aubreyq View Post
    So how are you liking that 620? Which color did you get? I wouldn't mind having a 620...
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    Quote Originally Posted by roaspiras View Post
    Glad you asked. I really like it a lot, in fact I have given my iPhone 4S to my wife. I got the lime green. Now everybody seems to look at me an wonder what phone I've been using. The phone looks tiny compared to iPhone but really screen wise its bigger. It may not best iPhone 4S for screen but the Lumia 620 screen is good enough. At its price point its a really a steal and represents overall value for money.

    Batter life is almost the same as iPhone 4S but this is a small gripe that's why I always charge whenever I can. Hopefully, a replacement high capacity will be available soon. I never bothered to put screen protector and casing because that's how I like my phones.
    Thanks for your reply. Yeah, if I get a 620 it would definitely be in lime green.
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    Quote Originally Posted by purefire21 View Post
    If you open a photo editor on your computer and put in 480 by 800 that size photo is bigger then a 5" screen a phone
    That's because your computer has a lower amount of PPI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoledman View Post
    There is no serious argument for higher then 720p on a smartphone size display. It's already perfectly sharp, that's why they call it "Retina" display. Windows Phone has much bigger problems like how the other storage keeps growing, no notification center, no VPN, no gapless playback and a 1000 other holes. The display not being 1080p is the LEAST!
    To be clear, I am actually GLAD that there is no Android-like notification center. That thing kept track of too much crap I didn't want to be bothered with. I see a notification center as mostly a live tile redundancy. If they were to introduce on, I'd want it to be set to:

    1. Increase the frequency with which live tiles find updates (specifically, how often the Microsoft Store reports app updates to users)
    2. Only provide notifications for apps that are NOT pinned to the start screen and those without live tiles

    I don't want a notification center doubling up on the my start screen's information, because it essentially ruins the function of many live tiles, and those notification centers can get VERY cluttered in a hurry. On Android, I had it alerting me to updates for pre-installed crapps that I couldn't delete without rooting, and I had it alerting me to e-mails on my GMail account, which Ihat ONLY created for my Android device, meaning I didn't want any of the e-mails I was getting. Having those unwanted notifications popping up all the time was a pain.

    I guess the easy solution is to create a notification center in which you can manually choose which apps can and cannot report things to it...
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    I think you're misunderstanding what people want from a WP notification center. We don't want more updates... we basically just want a list of all the toasts that are already happening.

    So when you miss a toast you can go back and see what it was. If you don't care about missed toasts you can ignore it completely... but some of us want to know what that chime was that we missed, and live tiles often can't tell you... especially if the app is not pinned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poddie View Post
    I think you're misunderstanding what people want from a WP notification center. We don't want more updates... we basically just want a list of all the toasts that are already happening.

    So when you miss a toast you can go back and see what it was. If you don't care about missed toasts you can ignore it completely... but some of us want to know what that chime was that we missed, and live tiles often can't tell you... especially if the app is not pinned.
    It still sounds like something that doesn't require an actual notification center. I guess since I don't use every social network on the planet, I don't know to what extent which application use toast notifications (I also think that term is kind of dumb, but that's irrelevant). To me, when I think of potentially-missed notification, I think of:

    1. Text messages
    2. Instant Messages
    3. Game messages (such as alerts to your turn, game invites, and friend requests)

    I think all of these can be handled easily without a notification center that will just add a bit of weight to the OS that I don't really want. For the first, we already have it covered. If you miss a message, it will be on your lock screen. For the second, I have IM+ pinned to my start screen, so the live tile (usually) updates that. As I said, USUALLY, so they need to perfect the live tile updating on that app. For the third, there are two possible solutions. The first option is to give the Games hub a notification center. You can go in, and one of the tabs would be "notifications," where it will list which games have notifications and how many. The alternative (or, perhaps, an extension of this) would be the same as how live tiles currently operate. You give it a number in a bubble on the live tile to let you know that you have notifications within your games. Ideally, this is a Games hub notification center extension. Otherwise, you would either have the Games hub highlight titles with notifications, or you'd do the same number-in-a-bubble notification manner for each game. The highlighting would be more obvious and less clutter-filled, in my opinion.

    My whole thing, though, is just that I don't see myself needing a notification center. I don't see any examples where one is REALLY necessary, even. I mean, we have live tiles to cover this for a reason, and if you don't want to use the live tiles for that purpose, I'm a little bit confused as to why you're on this platform in the first place, because that's kind of their staple feature.

    I guess I'm not so much AGAINST a notification center as confused as to why people react like Windows Phone is crippled by its non-existence on the platform. It could provide a small level of convenience, but I'm not the least bit concerned with it. I think it's something outside of the top-10 of needed improvements to the OS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wallace View Post
    To be clear, I am actually GLAD that there is no Android-like notification center. That thing kept track of too much crap I didn't want to be bothered with. I see a notification center as mostly a live tile redundancy. If they were to introduce on, I'd want it to be set to:

    1. Increase the frequency with which live tiles find updates (specifically, how often the Microsoft Store reports app updates to users)
    2. Only provide notifications for apps that are NOT pinned to the start screen and those without live tiles

    I don't want a notification center doubling up on the my start screen's information, because it essentially ruins the function of many live tiles, and those notification centers can get VERY cluttered in a hurry. On Android, I had it alerting me to updates for pre-installed crapps that I couldn't delete without rooting, and I had it alerting me to e-mails on my GMail account, which Ihat ONLY created for my Android device, meaning I didn't want any of the e-mails I was getting. Having those unwanted notifications popping up all the time was a pain.

    I guess the easy solution is to create a notification center in which you can manually choose which apps can and cannot report things to it...
    Android actually lets you choose which apps give you notifications now, since the Jelly Bean update. Anyway, this wouldn't really be necessary since WP apps have to let the user opt in to receiving toasts to pass certification.
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    Hope you get it. Actually you can get any color and just buy the replacement back covers when its available. I'm planning to buy the whilte, yellow and black so my Phone can have multiple looks when required.
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    Yeah I think its overkill. Whats next, 3D phones? I don't even like 3D movies, they look too "polished" and animated IMO
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