02-19-2013, 11:21 AM #1
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I'm quite intrigued and disturbed by the news in these forums over the last week. First, I loved the amazing piece of hardware launched by HTC today (HTC One). They are being really innovate like Nokia and unlike Samsung :P What made me feel jealous is why all this tech not coming to WP 8 anytime soon? Well, on the other hand, I really got pissed with Skype team handing out improvements to already functional program on Android and iOS. If they have some many engineers lying idle, why can't they fix and bring Skype out of preview rather than improving the already functional ones?
Now, who is working on the ecosystem? Only Nokia with Elop stressing on Ecosystem and paying EA or influencing them to port games to WP8 with some exclusives to Lumias? It's been almost a month since Daniel did a nice piece of editorial on what WP8 needs immediately. There were many such editorials from other websites as well. The only response we got from our beloved WP8 captain Joe Belfiore is asking us to wait, while he finishes playing on his Android :( I don't care what device he is testing or playing with... What I want is before more and more people like me feel betrayed that WP8 is not what was promised a year ago. So far it has been a rehashed version of WP CE on NT kernel... I mean when am I gonna get a full capable multitasking?
Today I was ending a call on Skype and immediately my L920 started playing a song I quite two days ago (apparently, it was paused and tombstoned in background). But what triggered it to play is still a suspense to me... Rant aside who is going to fulfill the promises of WP8 claimed...Or may be i just misunderstood the definition of multitasking... Integration of WP8 with W8 and our living room systems like Xbox 360 would be another big topic. Heck we don't even have DLNA capability yet. (Agree that it is coming soon). But I'm still not finding any ecosystem on the horizon yet. What's MS doing here? Can anyone?
Last edited by HeyCori; 02-19-2013 at 11:34 AM. Reason: Needlessly long, potentially inflammatory title
- 02-19-2013, 12:38 PM #6
Just because you don't see or hear about it on an every day basis, doesn't mean it isn't happening. Look at what happened with the Portico release. They said something was coming, and instantly people started complaining because it wasn't happening fast enough/immediate. I think announcing future plans is a huge mistake in this industry, because people will want it NOW, cause you to release prematurely, and then gripe when it doesn't function 100%.
Be patient, or get out. That's pretty much all there is to it. If you chose to buy a product based on announced future capabilities, and are no longer willing to wait, then leave.
- 02-19-2013, 01:40 PM #8
- 02-19-2013, 02:56 PM #9
Now if they had said "By Jan 1, we will have these applications, and this specific functionality.." then you have an argument. But they didn't. They only said they are working on getting it in there. I'm pretty sure, they still are. So the same story as when you bought the phone still applies. These are unreleased future plans. Nothing has changed.
- 02-19-2013, 03:10 PM #10
I hate to chime in but I read a post and says "man it's rough for WP fans out there" - I agree with this sentiment. The awesome, sexy flagship Lumia is all well and good, for me it does everything I need. But I went for a friend who has owned a low end Android for his life. Today, he showed me his Galaxy Note 2. This was in response to my showing off of Lumia I did for last 1 month. He chose not to buy it because of same reasons we've read a zillion times - apps, freezes, crashes, camera issue, no app to replace toilet tissues, no app to put the sit down etc. etc. etc.
I played with his Galaxy Note 2. These are my honest words: I'm jealous of his battery life. I know it's 3100 mAh but then it's HUGE screen as well. I couldn't stand the lag in the OS, the UI, the widgets made me crawl back into fetal position and cry for him. But honestly, I saw what he had pinned to his home screen. Those apps that we don't have. Those widget short cuts, those volume controls etc - was all there in front of me.
I see why the OP has to write that post and why it is totally OK. I see why those tiny features are so important for so many people more than the overall beauty of the OS. But I quote my friend:
"I wouldn't date a beautiful and hot looking girl when I know she can't even make me a sandwich next morning".
I see why many peeps will jump in to defend the OS that is so beautiful, but like about 100 other threads already on this board, we know we lack features, they NEED to be here soon, but posting on these boards changes nothing. Love the beauty of your phone (at least try to!) because no matter how powerful feature packed those other devices look, as soon as you use it for 10 minutes, you will miss what beauty, elegance and easy work flow you easily ignore because you don't have an app or feature that you use only twice a day v/s the UI that you NEED to use every time you unlock your phone!Patient Windows Phone User since October 2010 till cores and apps do us apart.
- 02-19-2013, 03:30 PM #11
This is why this topic seems to come up repeatedly, because WP users have been expecting Microsoft to actually make the OS competitive and actually move ahead in functionality for 2+ years now but we seem to be in the perpetual situation of waiting for the next update to "fix" the OS. Maybe there is a point to buying only when each feature you want is implemented but did anyone realistically foresee that Microsoft would be so incompetent that they could not provide features e.g. like a decent music player that can edit playlists in the 3rd year of the platform's life?
I don't think anyone has any unrealistic expectations of WP but when it seems the platform is at a standstill while competitors forge ahead its no wonder people question the OS and the commitment of the concerned parties and why despite some innovative features it still has a minute share of the smartphone market and ultimately, why many WP users are voicing frustration.
02-19-2013, 10:44 PM #13
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- 02-20-2013, 06:35 AM #15
You don't get the point of Windows Phone 8. Allow me to stress my point.
WinMo = WinXP
WP7 = WinXP with the restrictions of Mac OS
WP8 = Vista
WP8 is supposed to be under the hood. It is way harder to put a kernel originally designed for desktops on phones and tablets.
Vista fixed the flaws of XP, but was generally just a beta when it came out.
Win7 is merely a reskinned Vista (with *some* improvements)
- 02-20-2013, 08:19 AM #18
- 02-20-2013, 09:41 AM #19
Everything I have seen indicates MS is dedicated to it's 3 prong ecosystem of Windows 8, Windows 8 RT, and Windows Phone 8. Being familiar with how these things are developed and rolled out, I would be surprised if there was any variation in the path that they have taken. They are in the process of making huge backend changes to Skype, which will enable the OS integration everybody is pining for. But they have to wait for the right window to roll out an OS update.
- 02-20-2013, 10:25 AM #20
02-20-2013, 10:58 AM #21
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Do you really think when Microsoft adds a notification center, for example, carrier's will need to approve it? No, because a notification center will not break or change the way it works with the carrier. Fixing sim card errors is carrier dependent. Most other changes are not.
- 02-20-2013, 11:10 AM #22
Apps are a sore point for me but not as much as battery life. I love Google Now as well and it is the killer feature (to me at least) that none of the other platforms can match...yet. I'm keeping my 920 as my weekend phone but cannot yet make it my daily driver. I really hope that Microsoft has something in store for us and that the 920 can become my daily driver as I love using WP8 and want to make the switch. I hold hope that it will get there, I just hope it is sooner rather than later.
- 02-20-2013, 11:13 AM #23Patient Windows Phone User since October 2010 till cores and apps do us apart.
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