02-20-2013, 12:22 PM #26
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- 02-20-2013, 12:32 PM #27
Android users may have to wait years IF they get an update at all - regardless the significance of the issue being addressed.
iOS releases one or two feature (X.1, X.2) releases a year - the rest being small number bug fixes for immediate concerns.
WP8 is 4 months into the wild, and has already received a feature release, which is still in the process of being rolled out.
02-20-2013, 12:41 PM #29
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02-20-2013, 01:13 PM #32
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In my opinion Microsoft has been slow in the mobile industry, but not because of a lack of development. Instead the problem is Microsoft set themselves back by wasting 2 years developing a deadend OS in WP7. After realizing their mistake they rushed out WP8 in order to maintain what little marketshare they had. Now that they are using a new kernel we should finally start to see some progress with the OS. Had Microsoft developed WP7 with the new kernel, WP8 could have been almost up to if not up to par with Android/iOS instead of having to waste time redeveloping features that were already available in WP7. It also would have avoided the whole issue with WP7 devices being incompatible with WP8.
As for WP8's development thus far, they had an update within two months of release (though not necessarily available for everyone as of yet). That is a good sign, but Microsoft must keep the updates coming if they hope to establish themselves as legitimate contender with Android/iOS.
- 02-20-2013, 01:28 PM #35
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02-20-2013, 01:50 PM #39
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Microsoft Research shows off see-through 3D display, Holoreflector, IllumiShare | ExtremeTech
Then nothing comes out of it, just seems a shame...
- 02-20-2013, 02:14 PM #41
- 02-20-2013, 02:22 PM #42
This can go on, but point being, even though it is boundlessly beautiful and may be notification center or quick toggles or volume controls are going to make it look slightly like idroid, basic stuff that we have learnt to expect out of a smartphone needs to be there, not now, yesterday! I don't care one bit about apps the same way you might not care about orientation lock and I don't care if I don't get a toilet paper app on my phone for another decade. What I do think is hurting here is catch up in the sense of basic functions and those functions that are already there to "just work". Windows Phone 7 just worked. I was able to boast it to literally anyone and tell them confidently that "it just works". WP8 doesn't. Granted it is a new OS, only 4 months old etc, but this has been in work for nearly 2 years now. What happened to rolling out hot fixes? patches? No excuse is good enough to defend the pace of snail that Microsoft has adapted. Yes, if it does wow us with the good software it is taking time to build, I will chew my shoes. But, haven't we heard the same wait for x update, y update and z update story before? - catch up.
02-20-2013, 02:25 PM #43
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- 02-20-2013, 02:59 PM #44
I will now go back and quote myself, because it still stands. You bought the phone based on unreleased features with no set street date. If you are no longer willing to wait, go buy an android and see how long your update takes then.
- 02-20-2013, 03:17 PM #45Can Microsoft really afford to take their time in the mobile sector which is growing exponentially?
WP will never be "another idroid with a paint job" because of their (IMO) superior UI, however not having features that stop buyers in their tracks does NOT help the plaftorm. Heck, the editorial here at WPCentral about 8 things that WP needs right now speaks volumes. That editorial, on the most visited WP site, is testament that WP8 just isn't "there" yet.
But again, I bought a phone based on the feature set that it had, at the time. That is likely why none of the things that people talk about as "missing" bother me. I made an educated, intelligent decision on what phone I liked best based on its CURRENT feature set. I don't like Android, at all. I have an iPad, and iOS does nothing for me. I care not about how many apps a store has, because I have ones that work for me, doing exactly what I want. I would like to see a better Mileage Tracking app, but that's not a dealbreaker by any means.
When I see someone complaining about their upgrade to WP8 after seeing they owned multiple WP7 phones, and having the same issues as they have now... Well, they should have known better. I have no sympathy for that.
- 02-20-2013, 03:27 PM #46
If you launch an OS with about 120 missing features when compared to competition, then start releasing 5 updates a year with 4 features in each release you will need 6 years to be where your competition is and in those 6 years even non-innovative competition would have added 50 more features at least that you still need to catch up on!
So, yes everyone got a phone with what the features were at the point of buying WITH the knowledge that Microsoft will be supporting and developing this software further for 2 more years. Now don't tell me you expected 5 updates a year with 4 features each from a software giant like Microsoft when they said "yes we will support & develop that on that hardware for 2 years".
- 02-20-2013, 03:31 PM #47
- 02-20-2013, 03:40 PM #48
They released Mango, Tango, Portico and forgot to fix edit before forward in an email. How is that not one of the expected bug fix?
I have been on the same bandwagon 6 months ago, as you are today. Defending MSFT because others were reading between the lines. Yes, they won't say anything in black and white, no one will, not a corporate giant!
But point is - there is an elephant, in fact a few elephants in the room. I don't care, in a way if MSFT busts a move or not, I am more than content and happy with what the OS does for me, but the slow pace at which a software company fixes a software is mind-boggling! I expect this from an advertisement giant like Google, not Microsoft, a company that once enjoyed monopoly for more than 4 decades!
- 02-20-2013, 03:51 PM #49the slow pace at which a software company fixes a software is mind-boggling!
You take that turkey out of the world's most expensive oven before it is done cooking, and all you have is pink bird that could kill you if you ate it. If you wish, you may feel free to purchase the ready-to-eat chicken next door, or get a hamburger from the McDonalds down the street. I prefer well cooked turkey, and will wait till it is done.
- 02-20-2013, 03:56 PM #50
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