- 01-28-2013, 01:10 AM #4
I dont know why they would deny any carrier phones though. With Nokia trying to make a North American comeback I would think the more potential customers the better! And now with the news of a Verizon 920 like device, who knows what other tricks Nokia may have in the pipeline!
- 01-28-2013, 01:34 AM #5
Nokia has been a "problematic" manufacturer for the CDMA carrier community in the US (as Nokia considers them a Niche market), and have made it clear they will only deal with the three major carriers they currently have for the time being. Also, have in mind Nokia had major problems with Qualcomm when they decided to make their own unauthorized CDMA radios, which cause them to drop CDMA manufacturing for about a decade.
Does Nokia need Sprint and the rest of the CDMA carriers in the US in order to keep their momentum? I say absolutely, although some will say it's debatable in some form. Nokia knows they will have to deal with one of their former board of directors named Dan Hesse.
- 01-28-2013, 01:43 AM #6
Here's the news story where Nokia has made it clear they are simply not intersted in dealing with any other carriers besides the ones they have in the US for the time being, which pretty much makes it clear they are not even considering dealing with Sprint at this moment:
Sprint, Nokia ignoring each other on Windows Phone - for now - FierceWireless
- 01-29-2013, 01:24 AM #8
Actually, the problems between Nokia, CDMA carriers, and especially Qualcomm were caused by Nokia making a "generic" Qualcomm based CDMA chip without the authorization from them. Nokia faced the choice of keeping manufacturing those chips and getting sued all the way into bankruptcy, using Qualcomm made chips for their devices, or stop making CDMA phones. They chose the third option which kept them out of Asia And most US carriers.
- 01-29-2013, 09:28 AM #9
And the lack of phones in those key countries has caused them to lose their #1 spot in total phone sales. It all makes a ton of sense now! Hopefully nw that they've started gaining traction with CDMA carriers (China Mobile, Verizon etc.) it will help them be comfortable branching out to other carriers in India and even Sprint here in the US!
- 01-29-2013, 10:26 AM #10
Can't blame Nokia for Sprint's poor network performance and selling their soul for the iphone. I left in November after over 12 years. Never knew how slow it was until getting off of it. I think even if I had stuck around for a WP8, I wouldn't be having the experience I am now. My wife is still on her Arrive. But as soon as she's up or it dies and we can move with no ETF because they don't support it, I'm bringing her over with me.
But I'm glad for those that did wait it out or can't leave that they are finally getting WP8 there. Hopefully it will be earlier in summer and not later.
- 01-29-2013, 03:47 PM #11
Stmav, Nokia does not like the US based CDMA carriers, and Nokia needs them in order to make themselves a serious OEM (just sticking with Verizon and two GSM carriers does not make them competitive, especially when the sales for the Lumia 822 on Verizon have been atrocious, and had to resort to offer them FREE).
Sprint's network is being seriously improved (if you actually follow the data a site named S4GRU.com provides, which happens to be right on). Still some work to do i. Many markets but it's moving, and just before we go into another Sprint bashing, take a look at AT&T's network which is about 2-3 years of needing a complete overhaul as the one Sprint is doing. Patching as AT&T is doing will only for for so long.
- 01-29-2013, 04:00 PM #12
mrmdj, we've been through this before. I even showed you where root metrics had Sprint 5th in my city. In fact I switched to AT&T in my city where it's rated 1st.
Continue your crusade for cdma or sprint, whoever is behind it. But not all bashing is bashing. I think after 12 years of using Sprint, giving facts and seeing a real different in networks, that there is more behind my opinion that mere bashing. So please don't pretend Sprint is guilt free.
As I said, I am glad those that are still there and staying there are getting a WP8. Good for them and good for WP. The more the merrier. But if asked my opinion, I'm going to give it honestly.
01-29-2013, 04:54 PM #13
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