[rockstarzzz]

When did you last see SGS I, II, III deliveries in this state - Samsung ATIV S delayed until Feb 2013?

All they had to do was swap OS (not literally). If Nokia and HTC can get their phones in time, how come Samsung needs 2-3 extra months?!

Is it because like peeps said earlier that MSFT screwed up Sammy with WP8 incompatibility or is Samsung finding its true love only in Android's bed?

[StaticMain]

I suspect some hardware companies view themselves as classy and don't like to ***** about. Maybe Sam is pulling a page out of Nokia's book and considering a monogamous relationship.

HTC on the other hand...****.

[rockstarzzz]

Samsung can't just leave MSFT though!

[Winning Guy]

Samsung has no urgency. They're doing fine already, and I suspect that the only reason they're making WP at all is because they don't want to be completely beholden to Google. It's leverage to tell Google that they can jump ship if they wanted to.

[SoloXCRacer]

Samsung has no urgency. They're doing fine already, and I suspect that the only reason they're making WP at all is because they don't want to be completely beholden to Google. It's leverage to tell Google that they can jump ship if they wanted to.

^ This. They can afford to take their time. With that being said, it better be a killer device when it's released.

[a5cent]

Samsung can't just leave MSFT though!

Why not? I think Samsung can do anything they want that furthers their business interests.These days nobody wants to be solely a consumer hardware manufacturer. That is bound to get you into situations like HTC is in today. Samsung will do something about that, the only question is when.

I know Samsung has considered entering the services business, which would entail creating their own ecosystem. Their Android and Tizen devices would act as porticoes to those services which would replace some of Google's. Google is nervous, and I think with good reason. Samsung is powerful enough to do so and is contemplating it, Amazon already has.

Samsung putting their full weight behind WP8 would run completely against those interests, as that would promote yet another competitors ecosystem.

[Gaichuke]

HTC might be experiencing some good vibes from whoring around: HTC November sales reverse downward trend, up 23% - GSMArena.com news

[rockstarzzz]

But how will it help WP or Samsung by promoting or releasing a handset 4 months after the OS release? If MWC rumours are true, we will be seeing Nokia and HTC announce at least one handset sporting Portico, no?

[tk-093]

I look at it this way. Sammy is making very good profits selling Android devices right now. They can build only so many devices at a time. If they start making Windows Phones, that's probably less Galaxy phones they can make. So they need to take their time to make sure they don't harm their business.

Since HTC was not doing well in the Android game they can probably conentrate on WP quicker.. Dunno, just my theory.

[thed]

I look at it this way. Sammy is making very good profits selling Android devices right now. They can build only so many devices at a time. If they start making Windows Phones, that's probably less Galaxy phones they can make. So they need to take their time to make sure they don't harm their business.

Since HTC was not doing well in the Android game they can probably conentrate on WP quicker.. Dunno, just my theory.

Exactly. Demand is so high for the Galaxy phones, they have to make sure they can meet that demand before devoting production time to WP. Can't really blame them. It seems like they at least want to stay in the WP game, but they make a ton of money off Android and they can't jeopardize that.

[Winning Guy]

I agree that Samsung is likely going to try to create their own ecosystem.

Android is making them money right now, but they are not in control of where it goes. Yet they still have to spend money on support for Android.

It may take them another 2 or 3 yrs to get their own thing up and running. Until then, they still need revenue.

Samsung keeps WP in the mix so that Google can't dictate anything to them. Google might not be happy if they see Samsung looking at competing with their ecosystem. But if Google tries to force Samsung not to compete, Samsung could threaten to jump ship completely.

Google, in the mean time, will probably try to make Motorola and LG more relevant to reduce their dependency on Samsung's massive sales.

[snaqvi91]

Sony should be making windows phone devices. Don't known why they bother with their **** show with android. The only reason I can think is that their ps3 is a direct competitor of the Xbox 360 but that'd not a good enough reason.

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[socialcarpet]

This is one of the main reasons Samsung won't be getting a dime from me.

I hate Android and anyone who crusades for Android won't get my business if I can help it.
To make matters worse, Samsung loves to gum up and already flaky OS with their own crappy skins and layovers that just don't look or work well.
Samsung just has no sense of design or taste whatsoever. From their giant plasticky piece of crap phones that all look like the same curvy shiny crap, to their crappy UI skins.

[rockstarzzz]

This is one of the main reasons Samsung won't be getting a dime from me.

I hate Android and anyone who crusades for Android won't get my business if I can help it.
To make matters worse, Samsung loves to gum up and already flaky OS with their own crappy skins and layovers that just don't look or work well.
Samsung just has no sense of design or taste whatsoever. From their giant plasticky piece of crap phones that all look like the same curvy shiny crap, to their crappy UI skins.

http://i.imgur.com/u7H2l.jpg

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[entropism]

The UI on the Note2 is actually quite well done, but I prefer a pure, vanilla AOSP Android myself.

Back to the original topic: The Galaxy S3 was actually delayed for a bit because of production issues on the blue finish, and they actually changed it a bit for the US market. Could be the same thing happening.

[CapnPauly]

I can think of over one billion reasons why Samsung shouldn't be so Android-focused... ;)

[a5cent]

If MWC rumours are true, we will be seeing Nokia and HTC announce at least one handset sporting Portico, no?

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Every WP8 device in existence will get that update. Right?

But how will it help WP or Samsung by promoting or releasing a handset 4 months after the OS release?

It really doesn't. I don't believe for an instant, that Samsung couldn't have gotten this device out earlier if they had deemed it important enough. For WP8 it would have been important, as it would have demonstrated that a leading smartphone manufacturer is backing and believes in WP8.

[mlm1950]

I heard they were even sharing a toothbrush!

[Corepc]

Hmmmm...too busy in court with apple maybe..

[rockstarzzz]

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Every WP8 device in existence will get that update. Right?

Yes of course they will, but they will have something new in the hardware section may be? Like the second wave of WP7 devices? The mango ones?

[a5cent]

Yes of course they will, but they will have something new in the hardware section may be? Like the second wave of WP7 devices? The mango ones?

Ah, that is what you meant. I can't say.

[rockstarzzz]

Ah, that is what you meant. I can't say.

It will feel like HTC Trophy being released a month before HTC Titan.