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    Quote Originally Posted by chrgeorgeson View Post
    That's probably because he logged into his phone first which has a timeout period. The timeout period is the period of shutting your screen off (logging out) and turning it on again before having to enter a pin again.
    So when he logged in then shut the phone off then swiped over to the right and went into kids corner the time out period hadn't expired.
    My lumia 920, unbranded works like in joes video. No password to the right but a password up. OS version 8.0.9903.10
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    My 8X does not display this problem, all normal. Install .Net 4.5 first on Windows 7. Then the WP Sync app (Beta). After .Net you get file access.
    Last edited by Coolknight1968; 11-12-2012 at 05:11 PM.
    *** Forza Windows Phone 8 ***
    Many answers here in my battery tips & tricks post: http://forums.wpcentral.com/htc-8x/2...ps-htc-8x.html
    Please help me with my WP8 Sync App idea called "WP8 ClonePhone": http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-...lonephone.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Templar View Post
    My lumia 920, unbranded works like in joes video. No password to the right but a password up. OS version 8.0.9903.10
    I have the same OS version and phone. Do you have no timeout on the lockscreen password?

    Could it be a provider issue? Because I also cannot sync the time automatically from the network, I have to manually enter the date and time (no switch to enable automatic detection).

    My date+time setting screen:
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    Contact MS. They are aware and working on a fix.
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    I have time out set but if I go in to kid's corner and slide up before time out has enabled the password, the only way to get out of kid's corner is to hit the power/sleep button. Once that's done, going back to my main phone activates the password automatically regardless of timeout. Going back to kid's corner does not.

    If I let the phone reach the timeout, both main screen and kids corner will require a password. Isn't that how it was intended? I thought it was kinda cool that you can't go back to the main phone as long as you slide up to activate kid's corner before handing it over.
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    I agree with the sentiments that this feature is broken. The scenario I want is to be able to just hand the phone to my son and allow him to swipe to the left to get to his Kid's Corner and start using it, either without a passcode or with his own passcode which is different from mine.

    By requiring the same passcode for both I can't just let him know what it is or it defeats the whole purpose because he'll be able to get into the main part of the phone too. The whole point of Kid's Corner is to put apps there that are "safe" for him to use. So what's the point of requiring a passcode to access those? I love the overall idea, but this implementation detail makes it annoying to use in practice.
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    One big problem that I've found is that Wordament continues to use my xbox live account.
    I'd rather my kids (or any guest) would automatically use the guest mode.
    I'm not sure if other apps work the same way, but I'm assuming they do.
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    One big problem that I've found is that Wordament continues to use my xbox live account.
    I'd rather my kids (or any guest) would automatically use the guest mode.
    I'm not sure if other apps work the same way, but I'm assuming they do.
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    That's not happening. The point is to protect important settings from kids, not run the phone as a multiuser device.
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    Here is what I've been able to discover while playing with the phone:

    The password for the lock screen (as well as the timeout policy) applies to both the Kid's Corner and the regular lock screen (which is why this thread was started because it is a little annoying). Once entering the password while in the Kid's Corner, you will not need to reenter the pin for the Kid's Corner until the timeout policy has been reached--if a kid turns the screen off for a few minutes and then tries to get into the Kids' Corner again, they will be able to do so as long as the password timeout has not expired.

    If you enter the password on the regular lock screen, turn off the screen, turn the screen back on again and then go to the Kid's Corner, you will not have to reenter your password because the phone assumes you are a "parent" who is now going into the Kid's Corner; however, when going from the Kid's Corner to the regular lock screen, you always have to enter your password because the system assumes it is a "kid" trying to get into the regular portion of the phone.

    I think Microsoft's thought is that you really wouldn't want ANYONE to be able to pick up your phone and play around with it without your permission--thus requiring the password on the Kid's Corner. In a way, I agree with that; however, I think the best solution would be to have a separate password for the Kid's Corner so that you can give that password to your kids, but not worry about leaving that portion of your phone totally unprotected.
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    I think the system works quite allright?

    If you set 30 minutes on the timer, and unlock the phone for your kid to play with it, it can play with the phone for 30 minutes without worry that it will access your phone.

    Once you enter Kids Corner, and try to get back to the normal phone, it asks for a password even if its just 4 seconds since you typed it in last time, because its been in Kids Corner mode.

    Id like to make the timeout choice anywhere from 30 seconds to 24 hours. Cause why not.

    But then again having separate passwords should also be an option. Totally agree there. AND they should remove restrictions on what you can add to Kids Corner.

    As many have said allready, Im sure, I dont have kids nor would I EVER hand them my phone. However, if someone wants to borrow it to make a call, or just check it out, or check something online, etc, Id like to be able to just let them grab it off of the table and swipe right to get to "Guest Mode" where they can do whatever I want them to be able to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhoff80 View Post
    One thing about Kid's Corner that seems dumb to me is that there's no way to add IE.

    What should happen is that it should bring up an IE guest session, with no trace of my history or cookies from actually using it. Instead, you just can't add IE. As I don't have any kids, the feature would be more useful for me as a guest account when someone wants to check their email or something, and that's not possible with the way it works now.
    I found a nice way around that: download the free UC Browser for WP8. not a bad browser on its own and will solve the no IE option in kids corner
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    You don't need to enter the password to get into kids corner. On your lock screen swipe left. It takes you to kids corner, then just swipe up. I just set up everything like you had mentioned and it worked fine for me
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    if you have a lockscreen password that will not work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Kuebler View Post
    I agree with the sentiments that this feature is broken. The scenario I want is to be able to just hand the phone to my son and allow him to swipe to the left to get to his Kid's Corner and start using it, either without a passcode or with his own passcode which is different from mine.

    By requiring the same passcode for both I can't just let him know what it is or it defeats the whole purpose because he'll be able to get into the main part of the phone too. The whole point of Kid's Corner is to put apps there that are "safe" for him to use. So what's the point of requiring a passcode to access those? I love the overall idea, but this implementation detail makes it annoying to use in practice.
    I think the default behavior of kid's corner serves two purposes:

    1. The parent must explicitly moderate what the child can use.
    2. The parent must explicitly moderate when the child can use.

    The idea is that your child SHOULDN'T be able to grab your phone and use it as s/he pleases. I think the idea is that should ask first, so that you can unlock the phone thus forming an explicit permission. To please both sides, they should offer three choices 1) use same passcode as yours 2) use another passcode 3) no passcode. I think they just ran out of time to implement all these options, so they implemented what they thought was best. Maybe future revisions can have more options, but I think this is sufficient for most people. In fact, I have used the kid's corner for people who want to borrow my phone for web browsing (UC Browser or Next Browser).
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    Quote Originally Posted by inteller View Post
    if you have a lockscreen password that will not work.
    I did have a lock screen password and it did work as they showed at the wp8 launch. Maybe its a fault with your specific device.

    I'm on a Lumia 920 running portico
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    Please vote here to convince MS to implement different password for kid's corner: A separate (or no) passcode on the kids corner.

    (click vote, then 3 votes).
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    Yeah it's a huge flaw. What is the point of having kids corner enabled if you need to give your kid the password. Kids corner shouldn't require the parents lock screen password.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pazces84 View Post
    Yeah it's a huge flaw. What is the point of having kids corner enabled if you need to give your kid the password. Kids corner shouldn't require the parents lock screen password.
    Because maybe not everybody wants somebody to grab their phone and launch it without permission? Not everybody uses Kids corner for kids. Some use it as a 2nd start screen. I could put my Facebook app, or 4th & Mayor... anything really... and I want that protected by a password.

    Should there be an option to let people turn off their password for Kid's Corner? Maybe. I'd say no though... That provides a huge security hole when you start talking about corporate use. What's stopping somebody from putting some corporate app in kids corner to get around having to enter a device password to access it? Nothing. That's why I'd be shocked if anything ever changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tk-093 View Post
    Because maybe not everybody wants somebody to grab their phone and launch it without permission? Not everybody uses Kids corner for kids. Some use it as a 2nd start screen. I could put my Facebook app, or 4th & Mayor... anything really... and I want that protected by a password.

    Should there be an option to let people turn off their password for Kid's Corner? Maybe. I'd say no though... That provides a huge security hole when you start talking about corporate use. What's stopping somebody from putting some corporate app in kids corner to get around having to enter a device password to access it? Nothing. That's why I'd be shocked if anything ever changes.
    I actually thought about doing the same thing. Putting all my games inside kid's corner for easy access.
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    That's exactly what ive done. Kids corner is full with games and game related apps. Love the idea of kids corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tk-093 View Post
    What's stopping somebody from putting some corporate app in kids corner to get around having to enter a device password to access it?
    How about the company system admin that sets the policy? It would be nice if the admin could centrally disable pinning of certain apps (mail, calendar, contacts, and any apps that have access to those) while still allowing access to kids corner without a passcode.
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    please try this: unlock Kid's Corner and lock the phone again; then before the time out, you can only unlock Kid's Corner without the PIN. I.e. unlocking Kid's Corner makes the other one time out.
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    The problem that I have: My kids(under age five) love to accidentally make 'emergency calls' on my phones. Every phone I have owned since said children were born (Blackberries are the worst offenders). I *can't* put a pin on my kids corner, for fear that the 'emergency' option show up when the pin entry becomes available. The emergency call thing is a legal requirement, so I was told by the BB customer support folks, so it can't be removed. As such, I'm riding with no kids corner or no pin until my kids get a bit older.
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    yeahhh i think the lock screen is the least of the problems with kids corner, not sure if everyone has the same but my kids corner has a customise tile.... not exactly brilliant having it there as it gives access to all your photos ... that was not well thought out in my humble opinion
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