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    At&t says I can't upgrade until June! I bought four Titans for my family plan when they first came out last year. I feel like we are being punished for jumping on Mango.
    I'm REALLY glad I didn't wait for the Nokia 900, then I'd be stuck waiting to upgrade until almost 2014!

    Shame on you At&t and Microsoft for not caring about your faithful Mango users.
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    not sure I understand the confusion here...

    I mean... we all knew the score. been this way for 10 years. you get an upgrade every 2 years. What did you think would happen?

    You got your discount, now you want to upgrade a year later... they arent stopping you, but they wont subsidize your purchase again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gekkoace View Post
    At&t says I can't upgrade until June! I bought four Titans for my family plan when they first came out last year. I feel like we are being punished for jumping on Mango.
    I'm REALLY glad I didn't wait for the Nokia 900, then I'd be stuck waiting to upgrade until almost 2014!

    Shame on you At&t and Microsoft for not caring about your faithful Mango users.
    That's how 2 year plans work. There's nothing much you can say, the update situation does suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bauerbach View Post
    not sure I understand the confusion here...

    I mean... we all knew the score. been this way for 10 years. you get an upgrade every 2 years. What did you think would happen?

    You got your discount, now you want to upgrade a year later... they arent stopping you, but they wont subsidize your purchase again.
    Actually, they changed their upgrade policy. Early upgrades use to be available after 12 months. That's how I got my Titan after I had my Focus: (Nov2010) --> Titan (Oct 2011)

    Plus, we all thought/hoped we were going to get updated to WP8 when it was released, not WP7.8.

    **the customer service agent told me they'd make exceptions for people that called and complained IF the person has been with At&t for more than 4 years without missing payments.
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    You can always buy a WP8 outright then sell the titan to recoup the costs.
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    If it doesn't work for you, you can always shop for a new plan and new phones on a new carrier, then call up retentions at AT&T and tell them you intend to go to T-Mobile or Verizon for economic reasons (even with the ETF) unless they give you a reason to stay. Should help with the pain of the upgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gekkoace View Post
    At&t says I can't upgrade until June! I bought four Titans for my family plan when they first came out last year. I feel like we are being punished for jumping on Mango.
    I'm REALLY glad I didn't wait for the Nokia 900, then I'd be stuck waiting to upgrade until almost 2014!

    Shame on you At&t and Microsoft for not caring about your faithful Mango users.
    So...you're mad for it working like every cell phone upgrade?
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    I understand what gekkoace is talking about. I used to be able to upgrade at the end of 12 months if I paid an early upgrade fee. It started at $60 and dropped $5 a month for each month you waited.
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    in oct 2011 you were expecting wp8?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Villain View Post
    in oct 2011 you were expecting wp8?
    I was expecting it in November when I got the Titan on their $0.01 sale. I figured there was no way they could not update a phone less than a year old. Why I am rethinking WP8 devices at all. Or need to switch over to the early adoption cycle. I always wait till it matures. Mango was a huge leap over WP7 launch. I expect the same from 8.5. But if that only keeps me current for less than a year, I am having a hard time finding reasons to stick with it even though I do really love the OS more than any other. Hopefully by 8.5 release we know about future major OS updates. If they can assure us that WP9 will hit all WP8 devices I may stick with it. But, seeing a 1080p quad android HTC phone really has me second guessing. Don't worry, I know ALL the drawbacks of android and those kind of specs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Vermonster View Post
    I understand what gekkoace is talking about. I used to be able to upgrade at the end of 12 months if I paid an early upgrade fee. It started at $60 and dropped $5 a month for each month you waited.
    And let's not forget that AT&T have offered early upgrades in the past for iphone.

    While I'm not in a hurry to get WP8 I do believe that offering an early upgrade (for a modest fee) for customers at lease 12 months in their current contracts would be a good PR move for all the carriers as well as Microsoft. It might be enough for those 7.5 owners that are still pissed about 7.8 being as good as it get.
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    Cant say i would blame ATT..if anything Microsoft for a short lived win7 phone ...but even then.. its the nature of technology. cant always wait, and will always want the newest
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    You can get an upgrade before your two years is up. I think it's at the 15 month mark. I always get offered an early upgrade. I think this is for everyone.

    I've also called into their customer service number and ***** about buying a phone and having a newer phone come out within 6 months. Haggle with them, say you may just cancel your service, and who knows. They let me upgrade super early once. Seeing that you have four lines, I'm sure they'll want to keep you as a customer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gekkoace View Post
    At&t says I can't upgrade until June! I bought four Titans for my family plan when they first came out last year. I feel like we are being punished for jumping on Mango.
    I'm REALLY glad I didn't wait for the Nokia 900, then I'd be stuck waiting to upgrade until almost 2014!

    Shame on you At&t and Microsoft for not caring about your faithful Mango users.
    sorry, but shame on your for not doing your due diligence.

    I too can not update until June of 2013 because i got a samsung focus s in november for a penny, but there was already news of wp8 being ready at the end of 2012 so i knew what i was getting into.

    I hate ATT, but nobody can blame them if you entered into two year contracts at your own discretion, they didnt force you, they want to sell phones and they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by power5 View Post
    I was expecting it in November when I got the Titan on their $0.01 sale. I figured there was no way they could not update a phone less than a year old. Why I am rethinking WP8 devices at all. Or need to switch over to the early adoption cycle. I always wait till it matures. Mango was a huge leap over WP7 launch. I expect the same from 8.5. But if that only keeps me current for less than a year, I am having a hard time finding reasons to stick with it even though I do really love the OS more than any other. Hopefully by 8.5 release we know about future major OS updates. If they can assure us that WP9 will hit all WP8 devices I may stick with it. But, seeing a 1080p quad android HTC phone really has me second guessing. Don't worry, I know ALL the drawbacks of android and those kind of specs.
    All WP8 devices are guaranteed at least 18 months worth of updates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by power5 View Post
    I was expecting it in November when I got the Titan on their $0.01 sale. I figured there was no way they could not update a phone less than a year old. Why I am rethinking WP8 devices at all. Or need to switch over to the early adoption cycle. I always wait till it matures. Mango was a huge leap over WP7 launch. I expect the same from 8.5. But if that only keeps me current for less than a year, I am having a hard time finding reasons to stick with it even though I do really love the OS more than any other. Hopefully by 8.5 release we know about future major OS updates. If they can assure us that WP9 will hit all WP8 devices I may stick with it. But, seeing a 1080p quad android HTC phone really has me second guessing. Don't worry, I know ALL the drawbacks of android and those kind of specs.
    WP7 was built on the old Windows Mobile kernel though, and that's been around for what.. 12 years? While u won't get upgrades for 12 years with a WP8 device, I see no reason you would be abandoned after 6 months like the L900. That phone came out at a horribly unfortunate time as Nokia had to put a phone out and Microsoft was in a position to push out the whole W8 ecosystem later in the year.
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    Is it me or am I the only one that thinks this is "NUTS" Good god man if people are not crying that they can't get the L920 they are crying because they bought something last year on a two year deal and now they can't upgrade. did you read the contract? jeez read before you sign.. the Mobile tech world is changing fast with new devices coming every three months or so... and major updates at lest every 20 months WP7 was the foundation for WP8 as is WP8 is the foundation for WP9 in 24 months or so...it's just how it works. enjoy what you have and when you go to bed tonight remember this half the world has gone to bed hungry!!
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    I feel burned by buying a Lumia900 in May only to find out it will not upgrade to 8 so I can sympathize. I'm going to buy an 8s off contract and trade my 900 to HTC for 175.
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    They didn't have to do it.

    I don't think you know what ur talking about.
    Quote Originally Posted by chriscookz View Post
    WP7 was built on the old Windows Mobile kernel though, and that's been around for what.. 12 years? While u won't get upgrades for 12 years with a WP8 device, I see no reason you would be abandoned after 6 months like the L900. That phone came out at a horribly unfortunate time as Nokia had to put a phone out and Microsoft was in a position to push out the whole W8 ecosystem later in the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jabtano View Post
    Is it me or am I the only one that thinks this is "NUTS" Good god man if people are not crying that they can't get the L920 they are crying because they bought something last year on a two year deal and now they can't upgrade. did you read the contract? jeez read before you sign.. the Mobile tech world is changing fast with new devices coming every three months or so... and major updates at lest every 20 months WP7 was the foundation for WP8 as is WP8 is the foundation for WP9 in 24 months or so...it's just how it works. enjoy what you have and when you go to bed tonight remember this half the world has gone to bed hungry!!
    You are nuts, thats for sure. I am not crying about anything. I am complaining, and last I checked that was still legal on the internet. If all other mobile devices operated the same way, I would agree that I was nuts for wanting an update less than a year later. But EVERY other platform does not prohibit updates just because the OS changed its number. Iphone 4 was SC chip. It was updated to the newest OS that ran on the 4s which had a DC chip. AMAZING. How was that technically possible? You think iOS4 was written for DC? No. Do you think iOS5 was written for DC, yes. But somehow with double the computing power and double the graphics power apple was able to implement their OS on the last gen device. It is just so shocking that they could have achieved such a monumental achievement.

    Glad I do not believe everything I read on the internet as gospel. I would think designing a DC capable OS was impossible to implement on a SC legacy device. Not sure how windows has done it on their desktop OS for all these years either. Must be magic. The same exact OS that ran on a P3 computer could run on a Quad core and vice versa. **** win 7 can run on a 32bit 1ghz SC chip. Simply astonishing.
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    Android users get left behind all the time. You are whining (complaining like a little girl is generally referred to as whining). You sound like all the iSheep every year complaining how ATT is screwing the early adopters by not letting them upgrade their 3gs to the 4 or 4 to the 4s or 4s to the 5. You signed a 2 year contract and they subsidized your phone purchase. Either buy a new phone off contract or wait until they will subsidize a new one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1jaxstate1 View Post
    They didn't have to do it.

    I don't think you know what ur talking about.
    Perhaps they didn't. I don't work for Microsoft and chances are you don't either. We can speculate one way or the other all day without KNOWING anything. Unfortunately, what they decided to do has happened. Clean break from all of the old technologies, fresh start with a brand new ecosystem. It's unfortunate, as I said, that Nokia launched a "flagship" phone so close to the launch of Windows 8. Unfortunate, but probably necessary, given the slide they were, and are still, on. They had to come out with a phone. They are a phone OEM. If they don't make phones (forgetting the maps business and any other minute side businesses they have) what do they do? Bleed cash? The timing was just off.

    But give it a year, a year and 6 months, and no one will care. All of the current WP7 devices, with the exception of the low-end devices like the Lumia 510 that are currently launching with WP7.5, will have been replaced or upgraded to WP8. The world will go on.
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    The Windows PC platform was something I was going to bring up. My laptop is almost 4 years old and it runs Windows 8 great. Maybe not quite 4, it has the first Intel i3 chip in it.

    Windows is MS bread and butter, so they put forth the effort to make sure Windows 8 runs on older hardware. WIndows phone 7 is just a drop in the bucket for them, so why waste the time refining the software to work on "older" phones. Maybe they had a release date they wanted to meet, and getting WP8 working on "older" phones wouldn't allow them to meet the deadline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txaggies07 View Post
    Android users get left behind all the time. You are whining (complaining like a little girl is generally referred to as whining). You sound like all the iSheep every year complaining how ATT is screwing the early adopters by not letting them upgrade their 3gs to the 4 or 4 to the 4s or 4s to the 5. You signed a 2 year contract and they subsidized your phone purchase. Either buy a new phone off contract or wait until they will subsidize a new one.
    I dont care about buying a new phone if I want one before my contract is up. I care about not having my OS updated to the newest because of some invented reasoning. "New phones are DC, no way it will work on a SC. You need a new phone for that."

    Quote Originally Posted by 1jaxstate1 View Post
    The Windows PC platform was something I was going to bring up. My laptop is almost 4 years old and it runs Windows 8 great. Maybe not quite 4, it has the first Intel i3 chip in it.

    Windows is MS bread and butter, so they put forth the effort to make sure Windows 8 runs on older hardware. WIndows phone 7 is just a drop in the bucket for them, so why waste the time refining the software to work on "older" phones. Maybe they had a release date they wanted to meet, and getting WP8 working on "older" phones wouldn't allow them to meet the deadline.
    Agreed. WP is not their bread and butter but experts keep claiming that MS NEEDs to be a player in the mobile world to continue to be relevant. MS is obviously in agreement. Hence w8, w8rt, surface, etc. They are just choosing to not support those who supported them. At least thats how it feels. **** 7.8 wasnt even thought about till they received an internet lashing after stating wp8 was not coming to wp7 devices. They realized how pissed off people were and a few months later we hear of this 7.8 update.
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