[kiddori]

Anyone knows how the Skype VoIP integration will work?

[Nataku4ca]

im assuming kind of like how facebook is connected and when u receive/dial out it looks exactly the same as your regular phone

[power5]

I sure hope its like facetime but for anyone on your contact list with a Skype account. I hope it can call people not currently logged into skyp as well. The app sucks.

[Menzlo]

From what I understand, any voip app (including Skype obviously) can plug in deeply into the OS, allowing sending and receiving of calls to appear no different from regular calls. I'm assuming this means we'll be able to receive Skype calls when the app isn't launched. I'm also guessing we'll be able to link Skype accounts to contacts in the People's hub.

Here's some info about it from the Windows Phone 8 Summit:

[mcphersc]

This video has been going around today. Shows Skype integration in the OS. Looks really awesome.

[SnailUK]

I liked that skype video. Looks really well integrated into the OS.

[smoledman]

This video has been going around today. Shows Skype integration in the OS. Looks really awesome.

The video is gone.

[SnailUK]

The video is gone.

Just noticed that, its a real shame, as that showed just how well VOIP solutions will work with WP8.

[power5]

The summit at 1:22:00 starts talking about VOIP and skype. Will run in background so you can go to the web and other stuff just like it was a phone call. This is great.

[Coreldan]

On a random note, I do not know a single person RL who uses Skype o.o

[SnailUK]

Skype is fantastic. My 2 year old loves to pick up our ipad, and ring his grandparents who are thousands of miles away.

Even better as its free, and the video quality is pretty good. Only issues i've ever had are due to my parents dodgy internet connection.

If i could find some way of redirecting my phone number to skype, i'd never use a traditional phone again.

[power5]

On a random note, I do not know a single person RL who uses Skype o.o

Very true. When VOIP became big Skype was popular. **** I created my skype account when I was still on AIM. My skype name is even my old AIM name. I hope Skype can work with other VOIP programs without needing the other user on skype. So I could call my brother on his iphone with his facetime program.

[Nataku4ca]

On a random note, I do not know a single person RL who uses Skype o.o

u can be the first XD

[SnailUK]

Skype won't work with other VoIP programs. Facetime doesn't either. I mostly use Skype on IOS and its excellent.

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[Paladinleeds]

Very true. When VOIP became big Skype was popular. **** I created my skype account when I was still on AIM. My skype name is even my old AIM name. I hope Skype can work with other VOIP programs without needing the other user on skype. So I could call my brother on his iphone with his facetime program.

There is a workaround, but it won't include video calling. Unlimited calling to the country of choice (please note that countries may let you call landlines and mobile, such as the US, or just landlines, such as the UK), and then buy a number for the country of your choice. I am thinking of doing this.

[power5]

Why can't a VOIP program be created that can communicate with any other VOIP program?

[smoledman]

Who uses Skype? Everyone I know uses FaceTime.

[brmiller1976]

Who uses Skype? Everyone I know uses FaceTime.

I assume you're joking.

[Nataku4ca]

Why can't a VOIP program be created that can communicate with any other VOIP program?

i don't know the exact answer to this, but it probably has something to do with how each VOIP does it differently, like way back when AOL/IRC/Yahoo msg/MSN msg/ICQ/etc... were all the rage, they couldn't talk to each other either, then trillion came out and hacked it (well, that's the way I felt) so it can work with any messenger type, then there is probably licensing issues as well... who knows, but im guessing they don't want to have those things interact with software they (the companies) don't have control over

[a5cent]

Why can't a VOIP program be created that can communicate with any other VOIP program?

i don't know the exact answer to this, but it probably has something to do with how each VOIP does it differently

Why do people so often look for technical answers to these types of questions? Given the will and some investors, engineers are usually extremely good at solving these types of technical challenges.

The truth is: it's about each VOIP service trying to become the first world's first truly global telecom company. None of them want an app that levels the playing field and makes them all interchangeable. It's about business and legal matters.

[Menzlo]

Here's a link to the leaked Skype demo Microsoft demos Skype for Windows Phone 8 app in hands-on video | LiveSide.net

[Nataku4ca]

Why do people so often look for technical answers to these types of questions? Given the will and some investors, engineers are usually extremely good at solving these types of technical challenges.

The truth is: it's about each VOIP service trying to become the first world's first truly global telecom company. None of them want an app that levels the playing field and makes them all interchangeable. It's about business and legal matters.

if u actually read my whole comment u would probably have read this part

"then there is probably licensing issues as well... who knows, but im guessing they don't want to have those things interact with software they (the companies) don't have control over"

ur basically completely ignoring the fact that not all tech are the same and messengers aren't all the same, which is why they have to compete and improve so we can have better things, one such example is exactly skype, back then skype wasn't the only one doing VOIP, but they were the only one that did it well enough that it became feasible

MSN and Yahoo both had VOIP, but they were crap, heck they even had video before Skype did, the landscape now a days has changed, u can't be taken seriously when technicallity is completely ignored

[power5]

Okay, so is it illegal to create a program that can talk to Facetime, skype, tango, or any other VOIP program without licensing? I don't see why it would be. As long as you are not using the skype logo, or stealing their code, it should be legal to write code that can accept a skype call, and place a call to skype without being skype. same with facetime.

I can guarantee that you could easily get some cash for this program if a engineer creates it. Sure you may only get a years worth of revenue before apple and MS allow their native programs to talk to the other, but still it should pay off the time investment.

[Nataku4ca]

Okay, so is it illegal to create a program that can talk to Facetime, skype, tango, or any other VOIP program without licensing?

i don't think it's illegal, otherwise trillion(and kik) would have been shutdown, but the companies can deliberately block unauthorized access to their system (similar to and probably worse than how youtube is handled)

the thing is, most of these services has been free to us, the company has to make money somehow and usually by ads (or premium versions, but I've never seen anyone pay for it around me) if someone else creates a program and siphon those revenue, i highly doubt they would stay quiet, in a way the collaboration between MS and Yahoo would not have been necessary if there is no hurdles

[power5]

I dont think any revenue would be stolen though. The reasons most people use the services is because they are free. If they were not, they would just find another way. Premium services would still draw the users to the original program service. Skype premium lets you do group video chat. So block any group requests from this 3rd party app and post up an ad instructing the user that Skype Premium will allow what they want and have a link to it. And who cares if Skype tries to block the 3rd party app. They can find a way around the block. Should not be too difficult. I mean look how fast Jail breaks and unlocks happen in the mobile world. Same day iOS6 comes out its basically jail broken.

I use Kik. What service are they allowing users to communicate with besides kik? I had my brother install it on his iphone, and my mother on her BB so we dont have to pay for texting plans. But we all have kik. Can I use Kik to communicate with BB messenger or something?