- 09-19-2012, 11:31 AM #1
Nokia slams HTC's Windows Phone 8 announcement, calls it a 'tactical re-branding' | The Verge
"Today is more good news for the Windows Phone ecosystem. While others may choose to tactically re-brand their products, Nokia is driving an industry-leading smartphone franchise – that we call Lumia -- exclusively around Windows Phone. With Lumia, we are creating truly differentiated experiences like PureView imaging, location and navigation, wireless charging and Nokia Music. And we’re just getting started!"
First, it's not very classy to diss the competition like that. Samsung and HTC didn't do it to Nokia's announcement.
Second, HTC provided carrier availability and shipping month information. Nokia still hasn't.
Rather than put out tweets claiming that HTC 8X "isn't as innovative," why not get your stuff out there with carriers and dates, Nokia?
- 09-19-2012, 11:41 AM #3
Idk, I just think Nokia is having fun! It gets both Nokia's name and WP8 branding out in the public a little more! It also helps get the word out that Nokia isn't the only one in MS' court. None of which is a bad thing!
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- 09-19-2012, 12:03 PM #8
So if I tweet back "my 8X delivers much better performance than any phone YOU guys sell on my carrier, HTC is the clear choice #lumiasucks" I hope they have the same amount of good humor about it that they expect of us. :D
09-19-2012, 01:00 PM #10
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It is all harmless in the end, and maybe as it is 2 weeks later, there is more info that can be released as WP8 has gone RTM. It actually doesn't matter at all which carriers are getting them as we cant buy them so it is a moot point until the devices are released?
- 09-19-2012, 01:08 PM #12
I don't approve of Nokia talking trash, but if you want to talk about a company that has talked some trash over the years then look no further than the company that makes the operating system. ;)"Engineering is more than just the number of megapixels." - Stephen Elop
- 09-19-2012, 01:13 PM #14
- 09-19-2012, 01:15 PM #15
In all honesty, I wasn't considering HTC for my next phone before today. I will now have to truly take a look at the 8x vs. 920.
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- 09-19-2012, 01:25 PM #16
But your sensitivity about the whole thing sorta proves my point. Nokia and its community can slam Apple, Samsung and HTC all day long, but whenever they get criticized in return, it's all "why don't you just take your phone and leave us alone?!?"
Nokia and its fanbase are the ones asserting a "special role" as the "premiere manufacturer" for WP. If they're going to assert that role, then they'd better be willing to listen to real feedback from the WP community.
They can't have it both ways.
- 09-19-2012, 01:31 PM #17
If I were to upgrade to a WP8 from my Titan II, it would probably be the 920.
With that, I am not fond of the trash talk either. I think there is a better, more professional way to market yourself.
It just makes me think of bullies on the playground, and of Labron James.
- 09-19-2012, 01:45 PM #20
The only competitor I've seen Apple call out in advertising or in tweets is Microsoft, and that was only in PCs.
I just didn't think the Nokia stunts today were classy. I was a little annoyed at the swipe at Samsung, but describing these new HTC phones as "tactical rebranding" was uncalled-for. They're lucky HTC didn't respond with "here are ACTUAL PHOTOS from the 8X -- note, no camera crew!" :P
09-19-2012, 01:47 PM #21
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I agree with the other sentiments, this speech by Nokia is just marketing and competitive ribbing. Like above, Apple did it with PC's for years, though perhaps a bit less aggressive in presentation.
Nevertheless, it did help Apple's image of being trendy and cool while introducing the mac to a wider audience.
I don't think it's that big of a deal to be up in arms over. Personally, I think Nokia has a tiny right to be proud and lay a bit of smack talk because they know they're pushing other hardware advancements aside from the typical shrinking of components (though I'll admit the amp is nice, but far from enough).
- 09-19-2012, 01:49 PM #22
"PureMotion HD+" is a meaningless marketing term. HTC could have called their (lovely) screen the "HTC MegaAwesomeview" and then claimed to have "advanced the state of the art."
OIS hasn't been demonstrated in a credible way. It's still vaporware. Something HTC and Samsung have been kind enough to NOT point out (though if Nokia continues its "ribbing," it wouldn't surprise me if one of them does).
09-19-2012, 01:53 PM #23
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I guess you haven't been looking at the videos floating around; the real hands on demos. Also I'm pretty sure I asked you to look at them and explain to me how they're faked because you seem to know the answer.
09-19-2012, 01:55 PM #24
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Nokia is totally committed to Windows Phone. If they want to poke fun at the competition (after delivering something superior), I'm all for it. It's just a bit of fun, whilst reminding these Android OEM's that Windows Phone won't just take any old re-shelled device you throw at it.Google - "Don't be evil. . . much!"
- 09-19-2012, 01:56 PM #25
Yes, Apple's PC software is in a ****ty position compared to Windows.
Nokia wants people to forget they were on the brink of mobile destruction. So they do this cheeky crap to divert attention. The NOKIA LUMIA 800/7XX/900! was going to be their big comeback phone. Not. So now it's the 920 turn. How about you just shut up until you sell more phoens eh.
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