- 06-21-2012, 01:50 PM #1
Really, is that what you guys expected. I said from the beginning, as did everyone else, current devices will get what their hardware allows out of WP8. Will you get the new Start screen? Yes. Will you get Skype integration, and other awesome software from WP8? Probably. Will you receive a dual-core chip, and NFC chip, and a higher resolution screen over-the-air? No. Because Microsoft isn't Hogwarts.
All of this whining really makes me look down on this community. Under your all's logic, the iPhone 3GS didn't get iOS5 because iOS5 supported a higher resolution screen and a better processor, and the 3GS doesn't have either of those.
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- 06-21-2012, 01:55 PM #2
Microsoft should of just pulled an Apple and said all phones will get WP8 *fine print* minus a few hardware specific features. Remember, the 900/Titan II are both gen2 devices and hardware for those devices was finished mid-last year and released late last year via the Focus S and OG Titan. When WP8 devices launch the hardware inside your gen2 device will be nearly 1.5 years old."Engineering is more than just the number of megapixels." - Stephen Elop
- 06-21-2012, 02:12 PM #4
- 06-21-2012, 02:29 PM #5
I'm sure people didn't expect to get dual core OTA. ;) They assumed it would sync from Zune. Hehe.
Here is what makes people nervous, and if I were in their shoes, I would understand.
If a developer creates an app and compiles it just for WP8, it won't work on their device that they just could have purchased today.
This is the area that Microsoft should probably expand on.
Personally, unless the developer is writing something that NEEDS the new WP8 features, they would be very foolish to develope a WP8 only app.
Why is that? It's simple. I don't know how many WP7.x phones are out there, but I saw somebody say like 12 million. There are currently zero WP8 devices out there. If the goal of a developer is to make money, they would be pretty foolish to ignore the existing install base and start over with a user base of zero. At somepoint there might be a marketshare large enough of WP8 that they may ignore WP7.x, but I can't see that being right away.
Just my opinion.
- 06-21-2012, 02:33 PM #6
I guess people expected to receive dual-core chips OTA
and this too:I'm sure people didn't expect to get dual core OTA. They assumed it would sync from Zune. Hehe.
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- 06-21-2012, 03:48 PM #7
It just HAPPENED to be the case that there was a second WAVE of first generation devices. In fact we could say that Lumia 800 and Titan I were a second wave and that Lumia 900 and Titan II were a third wave... but they're still all 1st generation hardware. There's absolutely NOTHING 2nd gen about these devices.
- 06-21-2012, 04:25 PM #9
06-21-2012, 05:21 PM #10
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The fanboyism on this site is just ridiculous. Of course we can't get the hardware in an update-people feel burned because they just killed a platform off. There's no physical reason current gen windows phones can't get WP8. Dual Core, High Res Screens, and NFC support do not make backwards compatibility impossible. I could venture to say the new kernel doesn't either. The reason WP8 won't run on Mango devices or even the first Windows Phones to come out is simply because Microsoft doesn't want it to. And to tell you the truth, all of the people who say anyone who complains about WP8 is just whining are stupid. Its perfectly reasonable to have an opinion on a decision Microsoft has made with their device.
WP8 apps will not be forward compatible with WP7. Forward compatibility is hard to implement. This burns WP7 users because the platform they invested in is now dead, not because of natural technological progression but because of corporate decisions.
But now that I'm thinking, what good will sharing a kernel with WP8 REALLY do? Someone could point out that app development would be easier but how hard would it be to retrofit the HTML-5/whatevermakeswindows8run to the WP7 kernel? Is it just to say they can?
The reason I might jump off the WP ship is because Windows Phone is dependent on the actions of Microsoft, and if they prove they don't make actions I don't agree with then I will simply buy something else, or hold out until something better comes along.
That, and I just found out Nokia dropped their sponsorship of the World Rally Championship, so screw them and screw Microsoft.:P
EDIT:The new start screen looks like ****.
- 06-21-2012, 05:27 PM #11
- 06-21-2012, 05:40 PM #13
- 06-21-2012, 05:45 PM #14
Since WP8 is based off of Windows RT I could just as easily say WP8 was only made for dual core and above and that is your exact physical reason why it wouldn't run on a single core phone. Truth is neither of us knows....
- 06-21-2012, 06:10 PM #16
For me I'm very excited about WP8 and all it brings, but I've got a first-gen phone and I'll be able to upgrade in November. I'm sure I'd be a bit upset if I'd just bought a Lumia or Titan. I guess the real question is how long will it take for all of the WP8 only apps to be released. For quite some time there will be more WP7 out there than WP8.
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- 06-21-2012, 11:22 PM #19
I would like to point out that when ios 4.0 came out, the 3gs couldn't do multitasking NOR use a background wallpaper. Fact.
I don't mind people being genuinely upset. What I don't like are people spewing misinformation and running with it.
06-21-2012, 11:48 PM #20
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Personally, I think their approach is just fine. It was widely believed that wp8 would support higher resolutions, multiple cores, NFC, etc. And it was widely believed it would launch this fall. So if you follow the platform, you should have known your new lumia or titan II would no longer be the flagship device in half a year. Buy hey you're getting the new start screen and probably other updates with 7.8. What exactly is your complaint? Will there be a day when apps get introduced specifically for 8? Probably at some point, but id guess it won't be too common for a while, except for some native code apps. But what do you expect? The show must go on.
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- 06-24-2012, 12:19 PM #22
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- 06-24-2012, 01:57 PM #24
a lot of lumia owners especially are mad, and tech sites and really bashing them for this move.
if they had a shot at being a major contender, I would say after this that chance is pretty much gone.
- 06-24-2012, 08:55 PM #25
I love how escalated this situation has become. People just are never happy, doesn't matter what happens. Last year when I peaked interest in Windows Phone, I knew specifically not to buy one until WP8 came out. Those who just weren't patient enough to wait a few more months, ITS YOUR FAULT. Anyone who bought the L900 or the T2, to be honest was an ***** impulsive buy (if you bought them on a new contract). You knew WP8 was right around the corner, but yet you decided to get the "flagship" device.
Most people are complaining about the gutter, and the new Start Screen... and how it's become cluttered... I see it as it's a vast improvement. How does it look like crap? How does it even look cluttered? Windows Phone was and is about YOU, so how YOU like your Start Screen, is how it will look. Windows Phone is about Live Tiles and getting information at a glance, and they improved that by allowing more tiles in a smaller amount of space. So you can make sure you never miss anything. All you people do is complain about the notifications, and how there is no notification center... or how you always miss a CNN alert or something... Well, with the new start screen you wont miss anything... because it's all RIGHT there.
-_- God, it sickens me to see how people are so irate about this entire situation. Nothing ever pleases people these days. You can't just be happy with what you got, because something else might be better. You're still getting 7.8, but that's not good enough. Getting the new Start Screen, most of you hate it.... removing the gutter, you all want it back. It seems more and more Microsoft aggravates more and more people.
SO. GET. OFF. THE. PLATFORM.