[baseballbert]

Awesome. Now my WP can look like my iPhone but with an older generation phone.

Ok, it will still be a cool upgrade, and you buy tech knowing the clock starts ticking on it bein obsolete on day one.

But, come on MS, why would you risking angering the only people who would be good up sell candidates to a wp8?

[PDFierro3]

Or as un-cluttered as you want.

[c8m6p]

yeah, i love the existing users who are saying MS is shoving this new UI down our throat.

you can still have your same 8 squares if you want them. at least they are giving those of us who want a bit more customization that option.

[rockstarzzz]

You can size them as you like. It is up to you. If you leave them medium sized it will be identical to what we have. Wish people stopped with false knowledge. It is going out of control now

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[AzD]

I don't think it's all that cluttered; I do think the current UI is simpler and cleaner, but it looks like you can modify it however you feel.

[selfcreation]

you kidding me.. its only CLUTTERED if YOU make it clutter you cluts! .. lol

WP8 looks NOTHING like the Iphone......

Iphone = Grids of Icons
WP8 = 100% customizable tiles size and placement.. not to mention interactive!!!

i can probably say that WP8 in theory is MORE customizable then Android UI, ( with out tweaks)

[sting7k]

I don't think that looks anything like an iPhone.

[sentimentGX4]

It looks EXACTLY like the iPhone and Android app menu. Just because we can have different sized icons does not change the fact. iPhone and Android are even cleaner now because their icons aren't different sizes.

As a matter of fact, I hope Microsoft either eliminates or makes big revisions to the app drawer on the right. The new start screen makes it redundant and it was never great at quickly fetching apps.

[trumpet116]

You can size them as you like. It is up to you. If you leave them medium sized it will be identical to what we have. Wish people stopped with false knowledge. It is going out of control now

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Can we chose the size? That's better than I thought it was.

[socialcarpet]

We need more knee jerk overreactions about WP8 like this. It's really improving the quality of this forum.

Anyone else have a misinformed complaint about WP8 they want to freak out about before they have all the facts?

[tk-093]

People shouldn't be *****ing about a feature they have not actually seen or read about. You have total control over the size and placement of the icons. It's just like it is now, but you can adjust the size. Or..... wait for it..... not adjust the size!

[daredevildan]

We need more knee jerk overreactions about WP8 like this. It's really improving the quality of this forum.

Anyone else have a misinformed complaint about WP8 they want to freak out about before they have all the facts?

I wasn't aware that I needed a PHONE to use this OS. How dare MS?!?!

[DanSmithKY]

It looks EXACTLY like the iPhone and Android app menu. Just because we can have different sized icons does not change the fact. iPhone and Android are even cleaner now because their icons aren't different sizes.

As a matter of fact, I hope Microsoft either eliminates or makes big revisions to the app drawer on the right. The new start screen makes it redundant and it was never great at quickly fetching apps.

The WP Start Screen looks nowhere near EXACTLY like the iPhone and Android app menus. And WP 7.8/8 icons aren't different sizes either, unless you want them to be.

The new Start Screen has zero bearing on the "app drawer". You can pin as much or as little as you want to the Start screen now, and you will be able to pin as much or as little as you want to the Start Screen in WP 7.8/8. If the "app drawer" wasn't there, how would you launch something not pinned to the Start Screen, in either UI version?

[A Social Reject]

If the "app drawer" wasn't there, how would you launch something not pinned to the Start Screen, in either UI version?

Ask Siri TellMe to launch it.

[DanSmithKY]

Ask Siri TellMe to launch it.

+1 to you. ;)

[alpinestars1z]

Ask Siri TellMe to launch it.

I still think voice recognition is far from perfect.

Hey, isn't WP8 getting global search though?

[cckgz4]

Right because having functional tiles acting as icons that show you notifications REGARDLESS of size are considered to be a cluttered mess. If you can't organize your home screen to become functional, then maybe you shouldn't mess with the new update

[Satchef1]

In the screen caps, I didn't like it. When I watched the video and saw it in motion, it's actually not so bad. Much more cluttered that WP7, but also far more useful (I'll need to delve in to the app menu, or scroll down the page, a lot less now).

[baseballbert]

This could be ok if you've got control over layout features.

I wonder what the chances are of AT&T letting people out of their lumia contracts for new wp's and a two year commitment?

I also wonder if someone will file a class action suit against Nokia and MS for knowingly selling phones that you can't fully upgrade. It would be ridiculous, but if I've thought about it, chances are someone else has too.

[jfa1]

Can we chose the size? That's better than I thought it was.

There are three sizes of tiles if you look at the video of WP8 on the L 900 video.

[jfa1]

Right because having functional tiles acting as icons that show you notifications REGARDLESS of size are considered to be a cluttered mess. If you can't organize your home screen to become functional, then maybe you shouldn't mess with the new update

Indeed!!!!

[justop26]

I also wonder if someone will file a class action suit against Nokia and MS for knowingly selling phones that you can't fully upgrade. It would be ridiculous, but if I've thought about it, chances are someone else has too.

[InfectedPhreak]

I'm definitely a power user, and when I saw the summit demo video of the guy naming off all the different styles of how you can customize your start screen... I was like "DATS MEEEEEEEEEE" when he said "Power user". Haha. I have an Android, and I just use the app drawer because there just isn't enough single home screen availability for me to put the apps I want on it. I think that's whats so great about the windows phone start screen, it's scrolls up and down... not transition left and right to different home screens.

[tbonenga]

This could be ok if you've got control over layout features.

I wonder what the chances are of AT&T letting people out of their lumia contracts for new wp's and a two year commitment?

I also wonder if someone will file a class action suit against Nokia and MS for knowingly selling phones that you can't fully upgrade. It would be ridiculous, but if I've thought about it, chances are someone else has too.

that's funny. It's nice that they give us free updates but it's not in no contract. I can't update my windows 7 to windows 8 for free on my computer. The computer can handle the update and our phones can't. That is why. Microsoft is not being mean or greedy. The current phones just can't handle the horse power. I have a Lumia 900 & titan 2. I'm not mad at all. I wish and hoped Apollo would run on my phone but in my head I kinda new my phones couldn't handle it. Am I mad? No. Am I sad? Yeah. But I new when I bought my phones that Apollo was coming and bringing super phones. Oh well that's how it is.

[vp710]

I also wonder if someone will file a class action suit against Nokia and MS for knowingly selling phones that you can't fully upgrade. It would be ridiculous, but if I've thought about it, chances are someone else has too.

I saw this reasoning there as well: xda-developers - View Single Post - Lumia owner cheated and angry.

There is only one word to describe the **** storm, misinformation, whining, rabid bias and plain stupidity Microsoft's various announcements have generated these last days: disgust.