- 08-04-2012, 12:53 AM #1
Sup guys. I got a question do you think that after what happened to HTC. do you think that they should come back and focus more on Wp8 now. because HTC simply can't compete with Samsung in the android space. though Samsung is now putting more into Wp8 as well. So what do you guys think?
- 08-04-2012, 02:53 AM #3
- 08-04-2012, 06:27 AM #4
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08-04-2012, 01:56 PM #7
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Bought a EVO 4G LTE because I wasn't able to order a GS3 until a few days ago. Well, I just finished the transfer to the GS3 and I'm definitely enjoying Samsung a lot more.
Samsung may copy off Apple's designs, but a lot of their software is freaking awesome. I love being able to take a screenshot by swiping the side of my palm across the screen. Being able to swap media with anyone with a GS3.
I want Sammy to bring this innovation to WP.
- 08-04-2012, 02:12 PM #8
It will be equal, right now there really is no better processor than the Snapdragon S4. Don't really care for beats as the SRS is pretty good to me already. Besides I've heard that the beats didn't work till you have a beats headset. We also have too many people on here going to Android, that's not how we support WP.
- 08-04-2012, 02:22 PM #9
08-04-2012, 09:53 PM #10
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I think HTC's greatest strength, when they are applying it, is that they can make some high quality feeling devices that compare very favorably to Samsung's terribly cheap feeling light and shiny plastic junk when you pick them up and hold them in your hand.
If I were them, I would focus on that. Take some design risks like they have in the past, make some phones that are a little more daring, but sleek and masculine looking. Think Braun shavers.
Do that, and have at least two solid WP8 devices ready to do at launch and ACTUALLY ADVERTISE THEM.
It's OK if they are sold as Android devices too. As much as I hate that, it's a business reality and HTC probably isn't in a position to design unique phones for WP yet.
But this time, do it the other way around. Launch them as WP8 devices FIRST. The Android masses won't even be paying attention to WP anyway and probably aren't going to feel slighted by getting a phone design that came to WP a few months earlier. By putting WP8 first, they'll be doing something different, and that will get them some free media buzz.
Make two sleek, Braun shaver looking phones for WP8. Target businesspeople and more mature types moving away from Blackberry with one and give it a physical slide-out keyboard. Emphasize the MS Office etc.
The second model, make small and sleek and cheaper. Target it at young women who are educated. Emphasize the social media aspects of WP8, but that it's also a phone for serious people.
- 08-04-2012, 10:12 PM #11
- 08-04-2012, 10:15 PM #12
One area where HTC is better than Samsung, at least in the android world, is reception. The general consensus on the android forums I frequent is that Motorola and HTC devices get better reception than Samsung devices. Where I live the reception is adequate so I am very concerned about which phone does better. That's one of the reasons I want a Nokia WP8.
- 08-04-2012, 10:41 PM #14
The problem was people mistakenly spreading the word that HTC offered quality devices and Samsung ones where too plasticky. HTC though they made good products when actually they where hot pieces of garbage.
I mean the HTC One X is just 100 bucks and the GS3 is 200 as of right now. I tried to convince a friend of mine to get the One X because the GS3 is sold out everywhere and is half the price. She cursed at me lol.
08-04-2012, 11:44 PM #15
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Yes, I would like to see HTC put some love into their WP offerings. It sure doesn't escape me the history of HTC and MS, from Windows Mobile on. While LG and Sammy put out one or two WP devices in 2010, HTC was playing the role of Nokia and pushing them to all carriers everywhere. And some really good ones as well- maybe the HD7 on T-Mo was disappointing, but I get the feeling the Trophy and the Arrive (HTC7 Pro for you US Cellular and smaller carriers) will still be in use years from now.
But they have stumbled. I do not think they need to cower from Samsung in the Android world, but they sure need to decide on how to tackle them. WP 8 would give them a great revenue source that has room to grow and is years from reaching it's peak. They could really become a force along with Nokia if they decided to focus on it.
I do not feel as though I could trust them at this point. They have a long road to earn money from me. In WP 8 both Sammy and Nokia are way higher on the preference level. If I felt the need to go Android then Sammy, Sony, and Motorola would all be ahead on my short list.
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08-04-2012, 11:57 PM #16
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The title had me excited, but then the first few lines made me realize this guy knew about as much about Mobile as I do about Physics. (TRUST me- that ain't a ton. I so respect smart people.)
He states in the beginning: "The end of the year would in all likelihood see Samsung release two new phones that run on the Windows Phone 8 operating system. This marks a change in Samsung’s phones which have been almost exclusively running on the Android OS till now. It is hard to say now whether this is just Samsung’s effort to diversify its lineup or if it marks the beginning of a paradigm shift that will see the Korean giant moving away from the Android."
Almost exclusivly?? Apparently, he missed the ENTIRE Focus series, including the unofficial single most respected Gen 1 device and all THREE of the Mango Focus' releases.
He finishes up with "The news that Samsung is going to adopt Windows Phone is great for Microsoft on other fronts too as Samsung’s approval will mean that other manufacturers will take it up as well."
Adopt Windows Phone? Again...
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- 08-05-2012, 07:04 PM #19
It's also being proven for the Windows Phone cameras to be terrible with equal specs. The HTC one-X runs well enough but it has a lot of more features and apps than the WP8 version can dream, not to mention it will probably be 50 bucks on contract by the time those came out. Choosing the WP8 version will be being played for sucker.
- 08-05-2012, 09:18 PM #20
- 08-05-2012, 10:17 PM #21
Why do you think WP can't have cameras as good as the One X? I also think it's a bit short sighted to say WP8 won't be as good as the One X since WP8 hasn't been released yet.
08-06-2012, 08:23 AM #23
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These days many companies get down talked by customers who had 1 bad experience with the device. ALL COMPANIES HAVE QUALITY CONTROL ISSUES. I was recently an Android owner and about a year before that I was an iphone owner. On the forums people complain alot about HTC and Samsung. Samsung get more positive press simply becasuse they are in bed with Google when it comes to flagship devices. So of course they aren't going to get as much good press. HTC is not a bad company at all though. They make quality feeling devies. This is subjective though. Some people like more substantial feeling devices, while others like feather weight devices. People who complain about a phone being too heavy make me laugh because it's not like your muscles are bulging from holding it up or anything. if so, you need to hit the gym or see a physician.
Now, HTC devices like other OEM devices aren't much different in design from each other. Most are candy bar model round edges, now include some type of curvature. HTC screens are what I like though. for the most part. I find Samsung screen to be good as well, but they have a different look that in my eyes, aren't as good as HTC, but again this is subjective.
A while ago the HTC CEO made a statement about producing less phones in order to focus on the phone they already have out and the phone that are coming out. Ya know, so they can spread their resources out more efficiently. I'm not sure if this includes the development of windows phones as well, but we'll see.
We all complain about X company not doing this that and the other, but we are at our desks typing away instead of running our own companies. I mean, we really can't complain much. We can complain some, but we really don't know what efforts go on behid corportate doors. All I know is WOW, it's 2012 and we have some AMAZING capabilities on things that sit in the palm of our hands. Us WP7.5 user may not be keeping up with the Androids as far as functionality goes, but we are almost there. WP8 drops, we can bet they more people will flock. Spec alone gets people's attention. Once they see how much more capable it will be, I think with a year WP market share could rise a bit. At least I'm hoping. :P
08-06-2012, 08:59 AM #24
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Just look at these pictures:
A. Nokia N8
B. Samsung I9300 Galaxy S III
C. HTC One X
D. Apple iPhone 4S
E. Nokia 808 PureView
F. Olympus PEN E-PL2
Yep, the One X is horrible