- 01-24-2012, 02:41 PM #1
Ok so in my area there are like 3 people who are willing to do the trade, Im just not sure though.....
here are some random thoughts (might be a lot and in no order):
1.it is very weird, in one end I love the look, font, smoothness of WP7 but at the same time it seems like its a little TOO simple? Like at least on IOS you can put backgrounds and stuff, I dunno.
2.How is the camera on the 800?
3.I hear some complaints about pentile display? Whats all that about?
4.Let me look at my phone, heres what I use the most:shoutcast radio, netflix, pandora, last fm, paypal, ebay, flashlight, nba game time, justintv, and a bunch of random games.
5.I hear the apps are getting higher and higher in count, but im not expecting it to have the amount or quality of games that IOS has.
6.Are there a lot of free games? And I hear that WP7 apps are more $$, whats up with that?
Overall I think the looks of the lumia 800 are awesome! better then iphone! As far as whats holding me back its mainly 2 things: The OS its self, on one end it looks amazing, but I question if it will last or catch on (it seems it hasnt as of yet) and 2 memory, 16gb is kinda annoying especially since I have 32gb with my iPhone....are putting AVI and Divx files on WP7 hard? Also aside from no FFC (dont care too much tbh) anything else missing?
- 01-24-2012, 03:32 PM #5"Engineering is more than just the number of megapixels." - Stephen Elop
- 01-24-2012, 03:50 PM #6
Well, I know you said you didn't want the 900, but it will have a 12MP camera. I haven't seen it in action anywhere yet, so I don't know if it's actually any better QUALITY wise (cause MP aren't everything). I think the 4S has a noticeably better camera, but the difference depends on how important it is. If it's only mildly important, they will be at least similar. If your a huge camera person, it will probably be noticeable.
Edit: The 12MP camera on the 900 is wrong. I was thinking the rumored 910.
You can checkout the WP Marketplace through the browser if you want to check it out and compare.
Also, don't forget you get SkyDrive for Cloud storage.
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- 01-24-2012, 04:35 PM #8
In all honesty, I think the 800 is the weaker phone (and I own one and like it). If (1) bothers you, you can jailbreak the 4S now and change styles. With WP7, what you get is what you get and that's it. For 2, the camera takes good shots, sometimes great shots, but needs more work to get them. The autofocus on the video camera is also prone to strange behaviour and is disappointing (software fix is coming, but not arrived as yet). For 3, it's a matter of choice. Pentile AMOLED can look a bit "grainy", but the trade-off is fantastic contrast and vivid colours. There's no escaping the lower-res screen though. For apps you'll be fine, although your choice of games (or at least good ones) will be smaller. WP7 games also tend to be simpler. Want a decent FPS? Not the platform for you right now.
Oh, and Bing maps/Nokia maps are both fairly good, but both have less functionality than iOS maps. Nokia Drive is excellent thogh and helps bridge that gap and then some.
01-24-2012, 05:53 PM #11
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I would not trade the 4s for a Lumia 800 maybe a 4 but not a 4S. I would consider waiting until the 900 comes out which is fair competition to the 4S but in all fairness I would wait for the Nokia Apollo handset because you know they are going to go all out for that one.
01-24-2012, 06:11 PM #12
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Reading your post, as much as you like the looks of the phone, I think moving to WP7 would be a mistake for you, certainly at this point in time. Regarding your points, there are equivalents and work arounds and so on but even going on memory capacity alone I would say that you're better off waiting to see if Nokia or another WP manufacturer produces handsets with larger storage.
In the interests of covering everything though; the OS is pretty much untweakable, you can change the colour of tiles and arrange them how you like, and you can set a lock screen wallpaper. Oh and you can choose between a black or white background.
I generally find the camera to be very good, but I'm coming up from a 5mp one and haven't tried the 4S's camera to compare.
Some people can see the difference between a pentile display and some of the other types. I personally cannot, and if you've used an 800 and couldn't see anything wrong then more than likely it wouldn't cause an issue for you.
Some of the apps you listed are available, some are not, some may have unofficial versions and there are alternatives. MS and Nokia have committed to bringing at least the top 25 apps from other platforms to WP7 before this summer and the numbers are increasing at around 400 a day.
There are some excellent games on WP7, but you will not find any for 69p or $0.99. Generally speaking the Xbox Live titles are of a fairly consistently good quality (as are most a lot of the games/apps in fact) and obviously the achievements contribute towards your gamertag if you're an xbox owner and in to that kind of thing.
On iOS you have separate versions of apps for free/paid, on WP, most apps offer a trial version which may be time/functionality limited, or an ad supported version of the full app. Any trial can be upgraded from the app to a full version.
There are some things I believe that WP does better than iOS, and some that are still being added or improved either by MS or developers. But the fact of the matter is, if you're looking for a straight up iPhone replacement, at the moment you're not going to get it with Windows Phone, no matter what handset you get. If I was you I would check back in 6 months, the 4S wont have a successor by that stage and will still be worth as much to sell on.
- 01-24-2012, 06:45 PM #13
Don't do it. WP doesn't have some of your most used apps. It doesn't have official Pandora and don't have justintv. As much as I dislike iOS, the iPhone 4s is a better phone.
As far as games, there aren't very many good games on WP yet. There are some good ones coming, but they will probably be a little more expensive than on iOS. Most of the good games are.
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- 01-24-2012, 07:23 PM #15
2) Apollo is released
3) Nokia releases more handsets with screens that are bigger than 4 inches.
To the OP: I'd wait for the 900. To me that one would be worth it, but it depends on your needs. 3.7" screen is small, but you are used to an iPhone with 3.5" so its up to you.
- 01-24-2012, 08:34 PM #18
Ok guys thanks. Im not completely sure what I will do but I'll wait a bit, at the end of the day I dont need crazy specs if the OS runs fast and smooth, also as far as apps, aside from the ones I listed and some games here and there I dont need much either, like I said, the tiles look a little too simple but the rest of the UI looks amazing imo, the font is wow! I'll stick with iphone for now and perhaps get the 900 when out but like I said the main problem I have with WP7 is 16gb only, I mean its not THAT bad but ive been so spoiled with 32gb.
Anyway thanks, eventually im gonna go WP7 but I need the conditions to be just right and the conditions are getting there, just a bit more to go....if the 900 had 32gb, I wouldn't even be debating this...
BTW on a side note, I did have the focus at launch and loved it, just had to get rid of it because of missing features (which mago fixed) so I do really like the OS, just not sure if I was sold 100% on the titles, regardless it left an impression on me that has me yearning for it since launch, its just the things I listed are holding me back.
- 01-24-2012, 08:39 PM #20
Yeah I mean, if I buy for example the Focus S. What exactly will I miss on Apollo? Dual Core and HD display? I know the Focus S is going to get Apollo, it's a second generation device.
I don't really know what HD display means, since I haven't saw one yet.
- 01-24-2012, 08:39 PM #21
Also not to be another doom and gloom guy but is the OS even catching on? I dont even see commercials for it anymore, I have yet to see 1 person with one in public and im in New York, all these doom and gloom story's, it sucks cause I love this OS and want it to do well, not necessarily be #1 but just do well in general.
- 01-24-2012, 08:43 PM #22
- 01-24-2012, 09:06 PM #23
The OS is catching on. I see commercials all the time, I however will say that first gen devices had being moving much better than second one, at least in here.
Well my carrier is getting the Galaxy Nexus in a couple of days, so I'll keep my eyes peeled. If it's that good then I'll might wait until..November?
Yeah I don't think so, I can get a Lumia 900/Titan II, Samsung Miracle, LG Unicorn or whatever and then sell it and use my Bonus Christmas money to get a new one. My device is from 2010, that's ancient.
- 01-24-2012, 09:28 PM #24
2 - Do you have a list of all the changes coming in Apollo? Oh please, share it with the rest of us.
3 - Heaven forbid someone wants a screen smaller than 4 inches.
If your opinion is that people shouldn't buy a WP then why are you here? Judging from your post record you're shaping up to be a wonderful sourpuss that can't wait to spend his entire time here complaining.
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- 01-24-2012, 09:38 PM #25
He is partly right though Sawwwnik.
Though personally for me, Windows Phone will be complete once the Lumia 900 comes to the states. My major problem was the lack of LTE, that really made WP7 seem behind. Funtionality wise, WP7 offers 80% of what I want.