[erike3198]

I had the original focus with mango, now its taking me forever to get everything on my new focus. I don't see any shortcut here. needed to setup facebook acount, twitter, exchange, Google accounts, reinstall apps 1 x 1. rearrange my tiles the way I had them. practically as if I never had a wp7 phone before. this has taken me hours already. unlike a BB that you can just use the device switch wizard. am I doing anything wrong? the only thing that windows live did was bring in some twitter posts. I can't find any info on how to switch devices.

[theefman]

No way to easily switch devices, sadly. A huge omission by Microsoft.

[erike3198]

yeah , really bad omission. very annoying.

[KingCrimson]

Unfortunately I'm not sure Microsoft has an iCloud type solution that stores your entire profile. Do they remember your apps?

[dtboos]

Apps are remembered online now, but it won't keep your saved games ect (yet). They are working on adding a lot to the cloud, just no word on when yet.

https://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/account

[KingCrimson]

Anyways Apple wins by having a unified noun - iCloud. Microsoft needs that in the form of "Live" account or something that unifies Hotmail, SkyDrive, ZunePass, everything. Fragmentation is killing them in the consumer mind-space.

[Winterfang]

How's the new device?

[aubreyq]

This must be painful. I remember being able to link up to Nokia phones via Bluetooth and pull everything across, back in the Symbian days.

[dtboos]

They had the myphone online for Windows Mobile. They are most likely going to be setting that up as well once they get everything ready. Probably takes quite a bit of backend stuff to get all these things that have been separate for so long rolled into one without hindering anybody's prior usage.

[KingCrimson]

I'm just saying that Live services better meet and exceed the iCloud if Microsoft wants WP7 to take off.

Killer hardware + WP7 OS + Live Services = win.

[Pronk]

MS really need to get a full backup/restore solution (first/third party apps and app content) in place. Smartphones being smartphones, they crash sometimes, need a clean restart sometimes, and they hold a lot of information that is a real pain if you have to copy it all over to a new/replacement phone.

I'd say given how much Mango improved/fixed the general WP7 experience, this is now probably one of the biggest weaknesses of the platform and I'm really surprised nothing has been said about it being addressed yet.

[Pronk]

Double post. Sorry!

[jimski]

Remember that Apple does not have to deal with each OEMs little differences, a blessing and a curse for WP. So think of moving from a non-Mango HTC device to the Focus S. Lots to check and change.

Hard resets/new setups are a pain, but I like the feeling of having a fresh, clean device without any unneeded clutter.

Sent from my HTC Surround using Board Express

[aubreyq]

Remember that Apple does not have to deal with each OEMs little differences, a blessing and a curse for WP. So think of moving from a non-Mango HTC device to the Focus S. Lots to check and change.

Hard resets/new setups are a pain, but I like the feeling of having a fresh, clean device without any unneeded clutter.

Sent from my HTC Surround using Board Express

Definitely Apple has it easy because they only need to test the OS on their own hardware. Regarding WP7, the apps are supposed to work on all WP devices so one would think that Microsoft could develop or integrate backup/restore of apps in the future.

[Rico]

They had the myphone online for Windows Mobile. They are most likely going to be setting that up as well once they get everything ready. Probably takes quite a bit of backend stuff to get all these things that have been separate for so long rolled into one without hindering anybody's prior usage.

Yeah, and MyPhone closed last month. IIRC they were supposed to be migrating MyPhone content to users' Skydrive accounts, but I haven't seen any of my old texts and whatnot appear on my Skydrive. But in any case, I expect texts to be synched online.

[agreen123]

Hey guys; just to put in my two cents; remember that up until now, most people were still only able to use first-gen phones - there WAS no "new phone" to upgrade to (except, of course, in the case of replacements). I suspect Microsoft was probably using their dev resources to work on/improve other areas, and there wasn't too much point in putting a lot of energy into upgrade/backup paths. If we continue to to drop the hints and let MS people know, they're likely to realize that they now need to work on this area :)

[aubreyq]

Hey guys; just to put in my two cents; remember that up until now, most people were still only able to use first-gen phones - there WAS no "new phone" to upgrade to (except, of course, in the case of replacements). I suspect Microsoft was probably using their dev resources to work on/improve other areas, and there wasn't too much point in putting a lot of energy into upgrade/backup paths. If we continue to to drop the hints and let MS people know, they're likely to realize that they now need to work on this area :)

Good point.