- 10-25-2012, 01:51 AM #52
I guess if someone lives far out away from any major city, I could understand the need for a CDMA device with Verizon.
But if you live within 80 miles of a mid-sized city, you'll get faster speeds at a lower cost with T-Mo -- an average of about 15 Mb/second with an HSPA+28 device. 'Tis a fact.
I just don't understand why anybody would buy a $150+/month plan that uses up all its monthly data after just four or five Netflix movies.
AT&T is now even starting to block Facetime and other apps that it doesn't want you running on your network, even if it is within your tiny block of capped data. Outrageous!
The whole point of wireless data is to be able to use it when and where you want! If you need "local storage" because your network imposes draconian caps and restrictions, it doesn't matter that you can get a "strong signal" in the middle of the high desert.
10-25-2012, 02:00 AM #53
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After reading discussions like these, I'm glad that I don't have to deal with US carriers. In the small and quiet Finland I pay 9$ for my unlimited HSPA speeds.
EDIT. The 9$ is only from the data, I pay separately from my calls and texts.
Last edited by Gaichuke; 10-25-2012 at 02:17 AM.
- 10-25-2012, 02:13 AM #54
That's a pretty good deal, Gaichuke!
Incidentally, LTE often underperforms HSPA+. Here's a great example -- a T-Mobile Galaxy S III on HSPA+ consistently outperforming an LTE GS III on AT&T in download speed by a wide margin:
Note that the GS III service plan on AT&T with unlimited calls and messaging, and only 3 GB of data, costs about $100 a month, versus $60 a month on T-Mobile with unlimited data.
It really amazes me that someone would purchase a modern high-speed 4G device and then tether it to a network that rations data to such low levels. For all the complaining about a 16 GB network, it would take the average AT&T or Verizon customer a full six months of downloads until hitting their cap to fill a 16 GB device!
- 10-25-2012, 12:01 PM #58
That's the whole idea of a smartphone! Data rich applications.
If I only needed IM, email and texting, I would just have an LG Rumor.
I suspect the reason that most people don't use their phones to their capability is... Data caps. Don't want to exceed that restriction, so a lot of very powerful applications simply never get used at all. It is antithetical to the whole idea of 4G, which is supposed to be a fast massive pipe for data needs... Saying "you can fill your monthly thimble full of data really fast" utterly defeats the purpose.
- 10-25-2012, 12:08 PM #59
I work from home, so no commute, but I definitely see that aspect. My line of thought was more why watch a movie on a small screen when I can watch it on larger. But if I was stuck on a bus or train a lot each day, I would be looking for ways to entertain myself.
- 10-25-2012, 10:02 PM #61
Isn't the best reason for greater onboard storage to be games? I mean, games will get bigger; heck some android games are taking up more than 2gig right? So with WP8 and the kind of games we'll see on this platform having a connection with XBox compatibility??? One could possibly fill up their phone quite fast with Games and then you have to start deleting, because you cannot install a game on the cloud and then access it from the phone can you?
And how expensive IS storage nowadays?
- 10-26-2012, 07:58 AM #62
- 10-27-2012, 01:02 PM #63
Yeah, in the hinterlands, you pay 4x as much for *everything.*
My parents live on the edge fringe suburbs of a major eastern city, and they pay $150 a month for standard definition conventional cable plus 1 mb/second "high speed internet" from Comcast. Eeep!
- 10-27-2012, 09:25 PM #67
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Formatting, preloaded apps and other weirdness makes 12GB an absolute possibility. The Focus S and Lumia 800 have more available storage than your iPhone, the Titan has almost a full GB less.
- 10-28-2012, 10:08 PM #73
I put the ****s in myself. ;)
The other benefit of unlimited 4G is that, even for games, streaming can enable new capabilities. With technology like OnLive, one can play high quality games from his fast 4G device regardless of OS, simply and cleanly over a high speed network. No storage required.
But it is only economical on a non-capped data plan...