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    Quote Originally Posted by Winning Guy View Post
    Is Samsung really that bad on CDMA?


    I know my HTC sucks for reception. But I'm on GSM.
    Samsungs and older HTCs like the Trophy and Thunderbolt have awful reception. Motorola and Apple are the best hands down. new HTCs and LG are good but not on Motos level. Our Casio smartphone seems to do well too but it's an awful phone otherwise.

    My DM said that the Nokia he tried had the best reception of any phone, hands down. This is going to be a huge selling point in my market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honestabebread View Post
    Samsungs and older HTCs like the Trophy and Thunderbolt have awful reception. Motorola and Apple are the best hands down. new HTCs and LG are good but not on Motos level. Our Casio smartphone seems to do well too but it's an awful phone otherwise.

    My DM said that the Nokia he tried had the best reception of any phone, hands down. This is going to be a huge selling point in my market.
    I have read from other forums that the Rezound has great LTE radios for reception. I can't say the same when I briefly had an HTC desire or one x. I hope that changes for the 8 X. I may pick up a Lumia 920 just for the camera and offline gps navigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honestabebread View Post
    Training starts mid next week.
    One device from each OEM will be there.
    Just one device or AT LEAST one device per OEM? Still really want the variant of the 920, don't even care about the 822.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honestabebread View Post
    Samsungs and older HTCs like the Trophy and Thunderbolt have awful reception. Motorola and Apple are the best hands down. new HTCs and LG are good but not on Motos level. Our Casio smartphone seems to do well too but it's an awful phone otherwise.

    My DM said that the Nokia he tried had the best reception of any phone, hands down. This is going to be a huge selling point in my market.
    I'm going to respectfully disagree with you about the Trophy however. I get very good reception and the reception is every bit as good as my Droid X and reception is one thing Motorola is very good at.
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    Motorola and Nokia both understand radio technology, antennae etc. They have always done well in those areas. I know they did a lot to the antenna in the 4S and 5, but my iphone 4 is not very good at being a phone.

    I am a Nokia fanboi, but I have to say I am having a hard time getting excited about any device with 800 x 480 resolution. The wireless charging is nice, but I have to agree that the 9xx is all that I'd be interested in for a 2-year. In saying that, it'll (822) be fine for pictures, Skype, angry birds etc.

    If I wasn't going to buy the 920 from ATT, I'd wait for the 922 over the 8X, even if it took a couple of months. The OIS, extra storage, super-sensitive screen and wireless charging are worth the wait.

    Hopefully the rumors of the 922 pan out for those waiting.
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    It is hard to know what to believe these days when it comes to the 9xx and Verizon. I have heard rumored device a lot better then the 920 is coming to Verizon in Feb or March as an exclusive and we will be stuck with the 822 till then.

    Personally, my current phone, the HTC Rezound, is a good phone, but is having issues. I am considering buying a a phone at full price just till we get a high end Lumia phone in about 4 months if it is true. I will wait to use my 2 year upgrade at that point.
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    For those who may be interested, the 920 is up for preorder on Best Buy's web site for just under $150. Just wish Verizon would get off their *** and announce WP8 devices.
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    It nice the reps are getting 4-5 hours of training on WP8 phones. Now when a customer asks about them, they can show them off instead of redirecting us to Android phones. Last year I was lucking to have a Microsoft Store in my area. The Verizon store reps made me feel stupid for wanting a Trophy.

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    People keep knocking the 822, then talk about the 920 and hoped for 922, which I'm sure will arrive sooner or later. If you put that question aside and compare the 822 to the 820 & 810, the curvy design of the 822 is my favorite. It has clean lines and the distinctive long rectangular camera, running lengthwise. When good pictures at various angles, and a color option or two, come out, I'm sure more people will warm up to it. At least those who aren't holding out for a 922.

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    I don't think the 822 is terrible looking, but it's off my list simply because of the 800x480 screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fierywater View Post
    I don't think the 822 is terrible looking, but it's off my list simply because of the 800x480 screen.
    This.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeymjay View Post
    For those who may be interested, the 920 is up for preorder on Best Buy's web site for just under $150. Just wish Verizon would get off their *** and announce WP8 devices.
    Since only Best Buy has started pre orders that means AT&T will likely start soon and I would hope that Verizon will start at the same time. I'm assuming best buys price will be a little cheaper then going to a carriers store.
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    You can tell how much Verizon wants to push a phone by how long it stays on the landing page and where it ranks when you go to the Buy a Phone page. It is still prominently featuring the iPhone 5 (although the Droid Razr HD and Razr HD Maxx are now on the top and I can't see them kicking their premium branding - Droid - for WP8 for at least a few weeks to a month). They feature (and sell) more Motorola Droids than other phone/brand (other than the iPhone).
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    #64  
    It would be HILARIOUS if Verizon touted the "DROID Lumia 822 by Nokia." :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honestabebread View Post
    I highly, highly doubt this. VZW does not bend rules, ever. However I wouldn't be surprised if there was some kind of Trophy loyalty credit. For example, anyone with a Droid X2 or Droid 3 gets $100 off the new line of Razrs. We do pretty well working with the OEMs in that regard. Another example is when the S3 launched you got $50 off a Sammy tablet. I have heard we may have a similar promo on Black Friday where you get $100 off of a W8 tab when buying a WP8. We'll just have to see. I'm bumming I wasted my upgrade on the Intuition. Love the phone but I had idea the 8X was coming so quickly.

    EDIT: I can't stress enough how important VzW is making WP8 sound internally. We haven't had this level of hands on training since the iPhone 4. All retail employees are getting 4-5 hours of mandatory hands on training. Serious business here.
    If you're close to your phone upgrade, Verizon sometimes will bend the rules but usually under threat. As you near the end of the contract, the buyout shrinks. Many competing carriers do have programs where they will pay the buyout up to a certain dollar amount. Last time I checked I had heard T-Mobile would reimburse up to $75. Not sure on AT&T. The smartphone rates are high, though, but if its close enough and you're not on a bottom rung plan, they might flex a little. But I've never seen them do it more than two months out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by derek533 View Post
    I'm going to respectfully disagree with you about the Trophy however. I get very good reception and the reception is every bit as good as my Droid X and reception is one thing Motorola is very good at.
    You must live in a good area for reception. I've had several replacement Trophys and none of them have been as good as the Motorola Droid I had prior. I also have an HTC Rezound and it is head and shoulders above the Trophy in reception. Where I'm at the Trophy and my wife's iphone 4 are horrible for reception.
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    Thanks Honestabebread and Mr. Macphisto. I've seen a number for Verizon's loyalty department on another forum. I will call them and see what they will do for me. As much as I want to get a WP8 in November I can't see buying one for full retail, but that certainly is tempting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. MacPhisto View Post
    If you're close to your phone upgrade, Verizon sometimes will bend the rules but usually under threat. As you near the end of the contract, the buyout shrinks. Many competing carriers do have programs where they will pay the buyout up to a certain dollar amount. Last time I checked I had heard T-Mobile would reimburse up to $75. Not sure on AT&T. The smartphone rates are high, though, but if its close enough and you're not on a bottom rung plan, they might flex a little. But I've never seen them do it more than two months out.
    There used to be a point at which we were able to upgrade customers about a month early, but as their reps no longer get credit for upgrades that take place before the upgrade day, sups no longer have any incentive to kill their own numbers and approve early upgrades except in extreme circumstances. (And no, a potential disconnect isn't necessarily an extreme circumstance. I'm thinking more like rep-at-fault-for-massive-damages type circumstances.)

    There was a lot of abuse among both customers and reps when we had that leverage, and reps were giving away the farm to get their numbers. Honestly, I remember about a year ago where sups and their sups alike were actively advocating to upgrade under any circumstance possible, and giving away accessories all over the place, and I found myself wondering how long that could possibly last. And of course, every forum in existance had threads on how to push reps for early upgrades or freebees and the whole thing was a mess.

    So like an addict, they cut us off cold turkey. Can't say I'm surprised. I really wish there was an in-between, but there isn't anymore. I'm sorry. :( Like many great things in this world, the few ruin it for the many.

    Such threads are still out there with people discussing how to work reps for extras. Most of 'em seem to realize we've been cut off, but with the way they keep asking, you can see why things happened the way they did. Heck, there's still people begging for warranty replacements over and over hoping we'll give them the latest phone for free. If one gets through, it's rediculously rare, yet it gets posted all over the 'net like "OMG VZW GIVES OUT FREE PHONES!!!" So in general, it just doesn't happen anymore. I haven't seen a replacment like this over here in years.

    Anywho, on the subject of great antennas... the way my Trophy hangs on to the nearby towers, I'd have to say it's more tenacious than Naruto, and my house is the very model of low-signal. Samsungs...aren't bad. I wouldn't rule one out if it had a pretty-enough screen. (See: Galaxy S3's screen) I'm hoping the rumors of that 922 are true. I would love a huge and pretty OLED on a Windows Phone for once!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polychrome View Post
    There used to be a point at which we were able to upgrade customers about a month early, but as their reps no longer get credit for upgrades that take place before the upgrade day, sups no longer have any incentive to kill their own numbers and approve early upgrades except in extreme circumstances. (And no, a potential disconnect isn't necessarily an extreme circumstance. I'm thinking more like rep-at-fault-for-massive-damages type circumstances.)

    There was a lot of abuse among both customers and reps when we had that leverage, and reps were giving away the farm to get their numbers. Honestly, I remember about a year ago where sups and their sups alike were actively advocating to upgrade under any circumstance possible, and giving away accessories all over the place, and I found myself wondering how long that could possibly last. And of course, every forum in existance had threads on how to push reps for early upgrades or freebees and the whole thing was a mess.

    So like an addict, they cut us off cold turkey. Can't say I'm surprised. I really wish there was an in-between, but there isn't anymore. I'm sorry. :( Like many great things in this world, the few ruin it for the many.

    Such threads are still out there with people discussing how to work reps for extras. Most of 'em seem to realize we've been cut off, but with the way they keep asking, you can see why things happened the way they did. Heck, there's still people begging for warranty replacements over and over hoping we'll give them the latest phone for free. If one gets through, it's rediculously rare, yet it gets posted all over the 'net like "OMG VZW GIVES OUT FREE PHONES!!!" So in general, it just doesn't happen anymore. I haven't seen a replacment like this over here in years.

    Anywho, on the subject of great antennas... the way my Trophy hangs on to the nearby towers, I'd have to say it's more tenacious than Naruto, and my house is the very model of low-signal. Samsungs...aren't bad. I wouldn't rule one out if it had a pretty-enough screen. (See: Galaxy S3's screen) I'm hoping the rumors of that 922 are true. I would love a huge and pretty OLED on a Windows Phone for once!
    Thanks for the info. Most of my purchasing has been done through the corporate sales guy I know, so he's always had a way to slip things through. I got an upgrade in store early a little over three years ago, but I only had about a month to go and I upgraded my data plan to go with it.

    I don't understand the people who think the Trophy is bad at reception or even a crap phone. Mine has been solid. Sure, it's a pretty generic looking phone, but it works well enough, has good reception, and is snappy. I still get things done on it faster than my brother does on his Razr Maxx, though his battery life does kill mine. That's my only complaint about the Trophy, the small battery capacity at 1300mAh. 1600 would have been much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. MacPhisto View Post
    Thanks for the info. Most of my purchasing has been done through the corporate sales guy I know, so he's always had a way to slip things through. I got an upgrade in store early a little over three years ago, but I only had about a month to go and I upgraded my data plan to go with it.

    I don't understand the people who think the Trophy is bad at reception or even a crap phone. Mine has been solid. Sure, it's a pretty generic looking phone, but it works well enough, has good reception, and is snappy. I still get things done on it faster than my brother does on his Razr Maxx, though his battery life does kill mine. That's my only complaint about the Trophy, the small battery capacity at 1300mAh. 1600 would have been much better.
    Purchase the extended "3500 Mah" battery on Amazon. Im sure it's not really 3500 Mah but it does last a lot longer. I can get through a work day with heavy use. The OEM battery is a joke...
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    I don't have much issue with the battery. It lasts me through the day, which is good enough most of the time. Only time I can really say I had trouble was during a long train trip in which my husband had first dibbs on the outlet in our room. My phone still hung on, if by a thread, overnight until I was able to charge it again. My husband's MAXX, well, had a huge battery. 'nuff said.

    Recently I aquired a USB battery pack... Would have been a lot more useful on the trip.
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    @honestabebread; @Mr. MacPhisto

    kind of a stupid question considering there are bigger fish to fry...but is VZW gonna offer more colors on the 8x? I want the California Blue...but wife wants the Limelight Yellow. Also, can you confirm it is 16gb? If it is 8gb...non starter.


    Oh and i talked to Verizon at Sept 28 and the said due to me being a loyal customer for 10 years, that they dont see a problem for me to upgrade early (due for upgrade in Jan...). Just said i couldnt be moving to an iphone 5....anything else was fair game.

    Hopefully the person i call and talk to in Nov is that way....
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    No further news on my friends postponed training yet. Pretty tight lipped over there. I'm guessing that's good news.
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    spoke with a VZW tech support agent today and he did inform me that they will have several windows phones by the end of the year. he said that certain phones are in testing right now, referring to the htc 8x, but nothing is confirmed as he couldnt state the obvious. he seemed excited for the new phones, and also said that although the 822 is getting mediocre attention, he loved it. said it felt solid, and that it was a great device. there is no doubt in my mind VZW will have more windows phones coming here real soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cooperma View Post
    @honestabebread; @Mr. MacPhisto

    kind of a stupid question considering there are bigger fish to fry...but is VZW gonna offer more colors on the 8x? I want the California Blue...but wife wants the Limelight Yellow. Also, can you confirm it is 16gb? If it is 8gb...non starter.


    Oh and i talked to Verizon at Sept 28 and the said due to me being a loyal customer for 10 years, that they dont see a problem for me to upgrade early (due for upgrade in Jan...). Just said i couldnt be moving to an iphone 5....anything else was fair game.

    Hopefully the person i call and talk to in Nov is that way....
    I have no ideas on colors. We do know it is 16gb. There were a lot of places that listed the Trophy as 8GB and that was incorrect. I think the 822 is 8gb with microSD expansion available.

    It's very possible we might see the colors not all hit at the same time.

    Glad to hear you can upgrade early. My upgrade is due in middle December, so I have thought about giving it a go at one of the stores if my contact is not around at the time.
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