[lee.eubanks]

The 820 is U-G-L-Y (imo, though I know preference is different for each). I'm a big proponent of WP, but as a Verizon customer, I have the 4s and SIII for work and personal. I was really hoping Verizon could snag a flagship device, as I've been wanting to switch since the original 900 announcement.

It seems like Nokia may be going with the iPhone-AT&T exclusivity model, which really sucks for consumers. Which is even more bizarre considering the pent-up demand for a high-end WP was already met on AT&T with the 900. Verizon might have better luck on the marketing/selling side. See the original Droid campaign.

I'm holding out hope that Verizon will get the 920 after an exclusive AT&T launch -OR- Verizon gets their own flagship device.

What do you guys think?

[12Danny123]

Well It does say it supports CDMA from source websites

[thed]

Well It does say it supports CDMA from source websites

The specs say it supports W-CDMA, which is not what Verizon uses. I guess we have to hope that there's a separate Verizon version, the 921 or something silly like that.

[tk-093]

First "flagship" device that Verizon gets I'm all over. I can't wait any longer. 920, Ativ or whatever HTC comes up with. Slow and stead will not win the race for my money, though I will be hoping Nokia wins...

[Razanbuddu]

I don't know how reliable nokia4us is, but they are saying a 920 variant for verizon the first week of november

Nokia Lumia 920 and 820 set to debut on At&t Nov. 2nd. Also tMobile and Verizon getting one each. #switchtolumia ~ Nokia For Us

[poiman]

All this talking about carriers exclusivity is confusing for me as an European guy :P
Why don't you guys just switch carriers according to the phones that you want?

[lee.eubanks]

All this talking about carriers exclusivity is confusing for me as an European guy :P
Why don't you guys just switch carriers according to the phones that you want?

For me it's twofold:

1. Verizon has better coverage in my area
2. I have unlimited data with Verizon but wouldn't with AT&T

[thed]

All this talking about carriers exclusivity is confusing for me as an European guy :P
Why don't you guys just switch carriers according to the phones that you want?

Some might be locked into contracts and can't switch yet. Some might be on a family plan with Verizon and it's too much of a hassle to switch.

Also, Verizon generally has the best coverage out of all the US carriers, both in voice and 3G/LTE. Quite a few people report that Verizon is the only carrier that provides reliable coverage in their area.

[poiman]

Some might be locked into contracts and can't switch yet. Some might be on a family plan with Verizon and it's too much of a hassle to switch.

Sounds like you let carriers control too much of your lifes :P

Also, Verizon generally has the best coverage out of all the US carriers, both in voice and 3G/LTE. Quite a few people report that Verizon is the only carrier that provides reliable coverage in their area.

Ok, this reason is valid and understandable as you are in a big country.
Fortunatly I don't have to live with that. In my country (Portugal), I would say that 95% of our territory is well enough covered by all the 3 main carriers. They compete with prices, not with phones, services or coverage.

[lee.eubanks]

Sounds like you let carriers control too much of your lifes :P




Ok, this reason is valid and understandable as you are in a big country.
Fortunatly I don't have to live with that. In my country (Portugal), I would say that 95% of our territory is well enough covered by all the 3 main carriers. They compete with prices, not with phones, services or coverage.

Must be nice! Price is not a competitive point in the U.S. Verizon and AT&T basically mimic the other's prices. And while Sprint and T-Mobile compete on price, they're coverage is spotty at best.

[thed]

Sounds like you let carriers control too much of your lifes :P

I can't argue with that. But it's not like people really have a choice here. People enter contracts because it doesn't make sense not to. You don't get a discount if you bring your own phone, so you might as well sign a contract and get a discount that way.

If I had the option to buy my own phone outright and get a discount on my monthly bill, I would do it. But nobody offers that option. It's basically collusion but they get away with it. Sadly, until we get a more consumer-friendly environment I'll keep signing up for contracts.

[tk-093]

I don't know how reliable nokia4us is, but they are saying a 920 variant for verizon the first week of november

Nokia Lumia 920 and 820 set to debut on At&t Nov. 2nd. Also tMobile and Verizon getting one each. #switchtolumia ~ Nokia For Us

I usually never get excited about rumors, but I'm gonna let myself buy into this one for now. :)

[thed]

I usually never get excited about rumors, but I'm gonna let myself buy into this one for now. :)

Nice! Now, which phone for which carrier? Verizon seems to like the bigger, spec-heavy phones so hopefully it's the 920 :)

[poiman]

I can't argue with that. But it's not like people really have a choice here. People enter contracts because it doesn't make sense not to. You don't get a discount if you bring your own phone, so you might as well sign a contract and get a discount that way.

If I had the option to buy my own phone outright and get a discount on my monthly bill, I would do it. But nobody offers that option. It's basically collusion but they get away with it. Sadly, until we get a more consumer-friendly environment I'll keep signing up for contracts.

I understand. While you can buy a phone on contract here too most people don't do it.

The majority buy phones on carriers full price. Those phones are locked to that carrier but you can have it unlocked legally for a cheap price). You can also have a discount on the phone if you use your carrier points (which you earn according to the ammount of money you charge your phone with. It's like €1 = 1 point, but that deppends on the carrier). You can purchase a phone for a half of its price if you have about 2000 points to use.

So most people don't have monthly bills, they just charge their phones with money whenever they want to and use that amount for calls, sms and data (€20/$25 for 1GB, varies a bit from carrier to carrier), etc...

Maybe it's a model with its pros and cons.

[lee.eubanks]

Sounds like you let carriers control too much of your lifes :P




Ok, this reason is valid and understandable as you are in a big country.
Fortunatly I don't have to live with that. In my country (Portugal), I would say that 95% of our territory is well enough covered by all the 3 main carriers. They compete with prices, not with phones, services or coverage.

I usually never get excited about rumors, but I'm gonna let myself buy into this one for now. :)

Ditto.