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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldiggi View Post
    Not to ruffle any feathers here but the consistency of the i5 has me choosing it as the current smartphone camera king. I own both and its just with the 920 I am always retaking pictures. Sorry but no need to spend 2 minutes adjusting this and adjusting that just to get the right shot. I love both but prefer the convenience and reliability of the i5 camera. 920 camera is good not great. I can post a link of my thread on howardforums of my 5mp lg sv550. That was 6 years ago and it will embarrass the 920.

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    Not sure what you are talking about. People don't need to adjust this and that to get good shots with the 920. There are hundreds of great photos here and on flickr that prove that. It's just couple folks here and there talking about using finer controls to get the most out of it. You should expect people talking about things like that in a forum like this.
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    #102  
    Quote Originally Posted by TK2011 View Post
    Not sure what you are talking about. People don't need to adjust this and that to get good shots with the 920. There are hundreds of great photos here and on flickr that prove that. It's just couple folks here and there talking about using finer controls to get the most out of it. You should expect people talking about things like that in a forum like this.
    TK do not get me wrong the 920 is very capable. They just need to tidy things up somewhat. I have taken many great pictures and have shared them here with everyone but I find myself unsatisfied sometimes with my landscape shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdhooghe View Post
    I love it how people ask about the camera in day light and people come in talking about the video or the low light mode. Not everyone is in low light all the time, you guys. People say, "look at the package or the great night shots you get!" and that may be true but not everyone is focused on those areas. People want shots that are up to par with the latest flagship phones. What may be good for you doesn't translate to other people. I love my lumia 920 but I find myself in positions in daylight where I want a good picture. I want to go to Paris in daytime and take great shots of the Eiffel tower or other monuments and not have them come out fuzzy or have the whites off. I love the lowlight performance but I want great performance overall.
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    So you are not getting as good shots as other people's posted here? Post the problematic pictures and maybe we can help. Most times it's user error but maybe you got a dud.
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    #104  
    Quote Originally Posted by TK2011 View Post
    So you are not getting as good shots as other people's posted here? Post the problematic pictures and maybe we can help. Most times it's user error but maybe you got a dud.
    Def not user error TK been shooting for awhile now. The 920 has its flaws and 920 owners just need to own up to it for now that's all.

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    920 is not doing anything spectacular. Sorry but it is what it is.


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    #106  
    Quote Originally Posted by Aldiggi View Post
    Def not user error TK been shooting for awhile now. The 920 has its flaws and 920 owners just need to own up to it for now that's all.

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    All cameras have flaws. Every single one of them. Not just phone cameras but expensive DSLRs too. You go any DSLR forum and a significant portion of discussions are about faults. Typically a good half of those "flaws" are just due to user errors or having wrong expectations. The other half are real flaws. If you are lucky, those real flaws are pretty minor and can be worked around. IMO, the 920 falls into this category. And oh yes, there is some user errors and having too high expectations here too. But that's expected especially since many here are not photographers.
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    #107  
    Quote Originally Posted by Aldiggi View Post
    Def not user error TK been shooting for awhile now. The 920 has its flaws and 920 owners just need to own up to it for now that's all.

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    the thing i own up to is i'm happy with my lumia 920's camera. it works well in low light, daytime, video's are high quality with very little blur. that's all i care about. i for sure didnt waste my money when buying this phone. that's what i own up to.
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    #108  
    Quote Originally Posted by Aldiggi View Post
    920 is not doing anything spectacular. Sorry but it is what it is.
    So what's your point? Did you expect to see a Louis Vuitton? lol
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    #109  
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    920 is not doing anything spectacular. Sorry but it is what it is.


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    i'd believe this if you werent sending these pics from your ipad. looks like the 920 got post processed.
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    These are just simple expectations people are having coming from great camera phones like the iPhone 4S and up and android devices like the s3, note 2 and one x's. It just falls short to those guys that's all a lot of people like myself are comparing the 920 to phones like them. What was your last phone before the 920 TK? Sorry but I am not expecting the 920 to shoot like a Nikon D4 but at least on par or better as they claimed.


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    #111  
    Quote Originally Posted by tebugg View Post
    i'd believe this if you werent sending these pics from your ipad. looks like the 920 got post processed.
    I uploaded these straight from the pad. Saved the actual file size from skydrive into the pad and uploaded it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldiggi View Post
    These are just simple expectations people are having coming from great camera phones like the iPhone 4S and up and android devices like the s3, note 2 and one x's. It just falls short to those guys that's all a lot of people like myself are comparing the 920 to phones like them. What was your last phone before the 920 TK? Sorry but I am not expecting the 920 to shoot like a Nikon D4 but at least on par or better as they claimed.


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    i own a gs3. the gs3 is without a doubt alot harder to take a spur of the moment pic unlike the lumia 920. any movement on the gs3 will absolutely ruin the pic. lumia 920 you can move a lil bit and still get a good shot. with all the comparisons that have been made between the gs3 and 920 pics, it's hard to tell who is the winner in daytime photo's. i feel like i'm being trolled. heh.
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    #113  
    I'm just going to put a link to this my skydrive which I've posted before, but I've added more daylight photos that weren't just of sunsets and sunrises. Many of these were true snapshots, no adjustments made or post-processed.

    https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...D0zId4kTRYDbS4

    Shooting pictures can be hit and miss on every camera. I'm not entirely sure why you're not getting the results you want, honestly.
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    #114  
    Quote Originally Posted by tebugg View Post
    i own a gs3. the gs3 is without a doubt alot harder to take a spur of the moment pic unlike the lumia 920. any movement on the gs3 will absolutely ruin the pic. lumia 920 you can move a lil bit and still get a good shot. with all the comparisons that have been made between the gs3 and 920 pics, it's hard to tell who is the winner in daytime photo's. i feel like i'm being trolled. heh.
    Not at all buddy no troll here. 920 is great just not the best. That's all I am stating here. I'm happy cant complain just will be much happier once they polish things out.


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    #115  
    Quote Originally Posted by Aldiggi View Post
    Not at all buddy no troll here. 920 is great just not the best. That's all I am stating here. I'm happy cant complain just will be much happier once they polish things out.


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    you're happy cant complain, except......you're complaining. lol. ok.
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    #116  
    Quote Originally Posted by tebugg View Post
    it's hard to tell who is the winner in daytime photo's. i feel like i'm being trolled. heh.
    That's the whole point I've beem trying to make. In daylight they (meaning latest iphone/SG3/920) are all pretty good and similar. Difference if any is very small. In some shots you will find A better than B. In another shot, it's B over A. The real decising factor then becomes shooter's knowledge and skill. In low light, it's a different story - Lumia blows them away.
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    Here is a beautiful shot. Not really complaining just at times it's hit or miss.


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    #118  
    Just saying my 808 blows them all out of the water. Being the owner of both the 808 and NL920. - I'll say the softness in daylight isn't a deal breaker, because the night pictures rival just about everything below dslr. I have to work out the right settings and get a tripod out to compete with my 808. And as stated earlier. My 808 smokes the iPhone 5 and GS 3 cameras without even trying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Michael View Post
    Just saying my 808 blows them all out of the water. Being the owner of both the 808 and NL920. - I'll say the softness in daylight isn't a deal breaker, because the night pictures rival just about everything below dslr. I have to work out the right settings and get a tripod out to compete with my 808. And as stated earlier. My 808 smokes the iPhone 5 and GS 3 cameras without even trying
    ya the 808 is amazing, it's almost not fair..haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldiggi View Post
    i5 has me choosing it as the current smartphone camera king.
    Its actually quite far from it...

    Its consistency in daylight photographs is equally matched with its inconsistency at night time...

    Quote Originally Posted by sanders2232 View Post
    ya the 808 is amazing, it's almost not fair..haha
    Its not.

    Just from a hardware perspective, the sensor and the optics on the 808 alone are thicker than the gs3/ip5/920, there is one extra GPU which is built into the camera module itself with one single purpose.. image processing, you have a Xenon flash with not one, but two capacitors, and we have a mechanical shutter. So just from that perspective alone.. nothing else on the market has the "means" to even compete.

    Then we have all the work Nokia did on the software side to make it all function properly...

    If you think about in terms of size vs. image quality ratio, the 808 is the only device (smartphone or a dedicated camera) that can offer you that kind of quality from such a compact system.. non of the P&S even come close from that perspective. Its a pretty substantial engineering breakthrough... one of those that don't come along very often in the mobile phone industry.

    If any other company had this technology at their disposal, they would have proclaimed themselves as the best imaging company in the world, there will be a VAST marketing campaign behind it, and they will be trying their best to sell it. Nokia is doing the exact opposite... just because everything else is going so well for them I guess...

    Like..if Apple had it.. they will parade around the globe, and within 2 years they will crush the point and shoot market..
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    Nokia is king. 808 is still the camera phone to rule them all. The only reason the Lumia 920 dissapoins is cause the pureview bar was sett so ridiculously high by it's Symbian predecessor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldiggi View Post
    Not at all buddy no troll here. 920 is great just not the best. That's all I am stating here. I'm happy cant complain just will be much happier once they polish things out.


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    Aldiggi: You are correct on your opinion and I am still confused why many people in this forum still do not admit the weakness of 920's camera. You always talked about the landscape softness issues but people here always show you some close-up images which are not the problem we are considering. Not to say their pictures has the obvious white balace issue.

    Though its camera is good, it is still far behind what it shoud reach. The camera's firmware definitely has the problem (the alogrithm converting binary data to image). Currently I can use Cameraeasy app to get sharper image (not sharpened by an alogrithm but reasonably using the sensor data). As a consumer I really wish Nokia is still working on their camera firmware to really improve the quality of image.

    For those who still think lumia920 can get better pictures than other cell phones, I recommend you go to this website (Photo Compare Tool - GSMArena.com) and put down the prejudice to compare the image quality from different phones. Then you will know why many N8 and iphone5 users are not happier with 920.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zmqlumia900 View Post
    Aldiggi: You are correct on your opinion and I am still confused why many people in this forum still do not admit the weakness of 920's camera. You always talked about the landscape softness issues but people here always show you some close-up images which are not the problem we are considering. Not to say their pictures has the obvious white balace issue.

    Though its camera is good, it is still far behind what it shoud reach. The camera's firmware definitely has the problem (the alogrithm converting binary data to image). Currently I can use Cameraeasy app to get sharper image (not sharpened by an alogrithm but reasonably using the sensor data). As a consumer I really wish Nokia is still working on their camera firmware to really improve the quality of image.

    For those who still think lumia920 can get better pictures than other cell phones, I recommend you go to this website (Photo Compare Tool - GSMArena.com) and put down the prejudice to compare the image quality from different phones. Then you will know why many N8 and iphone5 users are not happier with 920.
    Thanks buddy as that is all I am merely trying to say.


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    Meh, my Lumia beats the iPhone 5 based of the video camera alone, not even mentioning the low light voodoo. But yes, in daylight, its easier to use the iPhone 5as a p&s and take good pictures. But that's the only field where I see it as compedetive vs the Lumia... But id take the iPhone 5 over the GS3
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    Well... more pictures are taken during the day than at night.. so.. they need to work a bit more on the jpeg processing, and I am sure that they will.
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