[Vaas]

Well I have had no major issues with my phone or the wifes. My battery is good after I turned off some background stuff. I had everything you could sync all the time, I Love live tiles :)

I do have minor complaints but I know those things will get updated by MS. Example the wifi turning off, being able to close an app from the list showing all open apps...etc
I do know MS will update and continue to improve things. Unlike android that depending on version you may never see an update, or apple that does a great job updating once they
finally acknowledge there is a problem ;)

As for the OP's reason, not really sure if he is truthful or not. It would be nice to know what exactly he is having an issue with.

[lordofthereef]

OP,
You have been back responding to the thread. A few have asked which app you used. Mind sharing that info? It would actually be helpful for the community.

Thanks!

[thekonger]

If you want to leave just go. I switched from the HTC Shift Android to my 920 and WP8 beats Android to me hands down. Notice I didn't go to the Android forum to tell everyone that. I only post in the WP forums. Why? Because if I posted in an Android forum just to say I was going to WP8 it would be trolling. And pathetic. So c ya, no more need for anymore posts from you.

[theetommyt]

I have been a part of Android, WebOS, Blackberry, and iOS forums for years now. Windows Phone is now mature enough that I started paying more attention. For the most part, I really like what I've seen, even to the point of considering buy a WP8 device.

Some people on forums get defensive about their choice of mobile platform like you sucker punched a member of their family. I was pointing out a few things that need cleaned up in order for me, personally, to commit a few hundred dollars. Included in that is what I believe the WP8 platform needs to become a mainstream hit.

Instagram is a very popular social network, not just a photo app with filters. Personally, I hate it, but it is hugely popular.

Not all Android devices area laggy. There are a ton out there that are complete junk, granted. I had a GSM Galaxy Nexus that was my second favorite phone of all time (behind a 2002 Sony Ericsson device that was a beautiful aluminum/piano back plastic design that seemed a little ahead of its time). It was very smooth, and very capable, even more so after Jelly Bean. Like it or not, Android is a mature & comprehensive platform.

WP8 has a lot to offer, that's why I'm considering buying a WP8 phone. The criticisms are fair though.

A few of you have said that the App market will grow and be competitive, I agree. A few have said iOS and Android had more issues this early in their development, I mostly agree. However, right now we are comparing current WP8 to current iOS and Android. iOS and Android have some great features that WP8 needs to polish up to be competitive Right Now. I need a device that is great Right Now, not in 6 months or a year or 2 years. By then, i'll be in the market for a new device and consider my options then.

One last thing, Nokia fanboys (not tech fans who like Nokia products, my apologies to them) on here are ridiculous. They are a similar breed to the blind sheep, hipster Apple fanboys (not fans, again apologies to true tech fans who like Apple products.)

[ryude]

I have been a part of Android, WebOS, Blackberry, and iOS forums for years now. Windows Phone is now mature enough that I started paying more attention. For the most part, I really like what I've seen, even to the point of considering buy a WP8 device.

Some people on forums get defensive about their choice of mobile platform like you sucker punched a member of their family. I was pointing out a few things that need cleaned up in order for me, personally, to commit a few hundred dollars. Included in that is what I believe the WP8 platform needs to become a mainstream hit.

Instagram is a very popular social network, not just a photo app with filters. Personally, I hate it, but it is hugely popular.

Not all Android devices area laggy. There are a ton out there that are complete junk, granted. I had a GSM Galaxy Nexus that was my second favorite phone of all time (behind a 2002 Sony Ericsson device that was a beautiful aluminum/piano back plastic design that seemed a little ahead of its time). It was very smooth, and very capable, even more so after Jelly Bean. Like it or not, Android is a mature & comprehensive platform.

WP8 has a lot to offer, that's why I'm considering buying a WP8 phone. The criticisms are fair though.

A few of you have said that the App market will grow and be competitive, I agree. A few have said iOS and Android had more issues this early in their development, I mostly agree. However, right now we are comparing current WP8 to current iOS and Android. iOS and Android have some great features that WP8 needs to polish up to be competitive Right Now. I need a device that is great Right Now, not in 6 months or a year or 2 years. By then, i'll be in the market for a new device and consider my options then.

One last thing, Nokia fanboys (not tech fans who like Nokia products, my apologies to them) on here are ridiculous. They are a similar breed to the blind sheep, hipster Apple fanboys (not fans, again apologies to true tech fans who like Apple products.)

I think that is a big problem with WP. You have 3 different kinds of people: 1) WP does everything they need and are happy with it. 2) WP does not do everything they need, but are willing to wait for updates. 3) WP does not do everything they need, so they're switching to iOS/Android.

WPCentral has some of the worst fanboys I've ever seen, but you can point them out relatively quickly. They don't make up the majority of people here, but I agree they can be annoying.

Legitimate issues need to be addressed, insulting people for their needs and how WP is not fulfilling them is hurting this community.

[Winning Guy]

that's largely irrelevant. The point was a Droid had issues. And windows phone 8 seems.to have the same/similar issues.

But with Nokia, you get fixes.

[Winning Guy]

People can't expect to come to WP and make it into their old phone.

Sometimes, when you're using a completely different OS with a different design philosophy, you need to see if there are different ways to accomplish the same goal.

[thekonger]

thetommy, I have said this in another post and I'll say it again, this is a Windows Phone forum, it's okay to be a WP fanboy here. In fact, the reason most people are in any device or OS forum is they are huge fans of that device or OS. That's the purpose of the forum.

People have to think about where they post something and what the intent of the post was. I don't care what phone a person wants, but don't go declare it in the forum of the phone you are leaving. That is the literal definition of trolling.

[lordofthereef]

But with Nokia, you get fixes.

buy the right android device and tiu get fixes too. My point? Blanket statements are silly.

[trouble210]

If you are having "issues" with certain radio stations, then the least you can do is let us know what they are. Tunein radio has pretty much any radio station imaginable. Did you try that?

Tried Tune In. Station looks like it connects, but no sound. (Yes, the volume was up).

Also tried downloading TuneIn app, got: !This app is not available for your device.

I'm using a Nokia 810 on TMo.

[lordofthereef]

People can't expect to come to WP and make it into their old phone.

Sometimes, when you're using a completely different OS with a different design philosophy, you need to see if there are different ways to accomplish the same goal.

that's the issue. With WP, often there is not. Or... Its so much more work that I would rather not bother.

I sort of hate the motto of WP. It brings out the apologist in everyone.

I like the platform. But there are still some incredibly basic things missing that just make little sense.

[theetommyt]

@thekonger

It's Ok (actually it's great) to be a WP fan here, fanboys of all kinds suck are are disillusioned idiots. Apple, MS, Google are not religions (thank Jeebus for that).

[thekonger]

theetommy, yes you are correct. I am probably using the wrong terminology. I am a big WP fan, but as I have stated in my posts I have no issues if a person wants iOS or droid. But there really is no need to post that in a forum dedicated to WP8. If the intent of your post is to offer or ask for insight that's one thing. But if you have already made you decision and simply declare you are going to another OS because you didn't like one aspect, that's trolling.

[Winning Guy]

that's the issue. With WP, often there is not. Or... Its so much more work that I would rather not bother.

I sort of hate the motto of WP. It brings out the apologist in everyone.

I like the platform. But there are still some incredibly basic things missing that just make little sense.

The vast majority of things can be done, just differently. There are a few straggling things that will be addressed. I could say the same thing about Android if I was only familiar with the WP method and workflow? Where are my live tiles? Where are my rooms and groups? Where's my Kid's Corner? Unacceptable! Android is so far behind!

Liking the way WP does things isn't being an "apologist." That's an especially bad thing to call people when you claim to not like when people get on your back for disagreeing, since you're doing the exact same thing.

[dainla]

The Android I had crashed all the time. Good riddance.

[Winning Guy]

Going back to the store. Buying some food for Thanksgiving.

Going back to the store. Going to get Starbucks.

Going back to the store. Just thought I'd walk around.

Just thought I'd announce my movements to everyone. That's what the theme of this three was, right?

[alfonz]

Highly unlikely.

Oh this is very likely. I work for a Cellular Company (will not mention names) and believe me the amount of SIII I have dealt with with issues and cannot even count. Oh and don't get me started on the iphone 5 on its release date. They had poor stock availability and we had 4/10 return rate on the iphone5s. Mainly the main speakers would just die and issues with them not powering on not to mention the iphone5 feels cheap to me. If people are adamant on getting in iphone I steer them towards a 4S instead.

[CJ Thunder]

that's largely irrelevant. The point was a Droid had issues. And windows phone 8 seems.to have the same/similar issues.

Indeed it is, the wpc app has been buggy a bit (though seems to be the switch to the new unified accounts, and forum style). Typed a longer post, and poof. Oh well too long now to make original point.


Though I agree with the issues. WP is a better experience, but if your need one thing our phone doesn't have you are going to be disappointed. We have many holes but they seem to be filling faster.

Though tune in and iheartradio work great.

Can audio from a website play during the lockscreen?

[retyler]

Where is this TuneIn app everyone keeps talking about? I can not find it in the app store.

[bryan_05]

Got my new WP 3 days ago, was excited - until - I tried to stream a few of my favorite radio stations, none of which are playable on WP. (All of which work fine on my wife's Android).

Too bad because I really like the phone, but if I can't get it access things I want, it's useless to me. Phone's going back to store.

I agree this is a major issue. Streaming podcasts and .m3u files are a big deal and it's really irritating WP8 doesn't allow it. Surely a developer wants to make a quick buck and is going to release an app to do this - VLC, Winows Media Player, TuneIn, etc.?

[PG2G]

TuneIn exists, doesn't it? Maybe it needs updates to work well with Windows Phone 8

[brmiller1976]

The Android troll mojo is strong in this thread!

(And even if I was a "fanboy" and not a user experienced across ALL major platforms who chose the best platform for myself, I have a friggin' right to to let my Metro Flag fly here at WINDOWS PHONE Central. How lame and stupid does someone have to be to create fake accounts to troll another product's forum? Talk about "fanboy." And no, I am not going to post a self-righteous, teary-eyed post on Android Central about how I "ditched my GS 3 due to hundreds of freezes, crashes, lags and lock-ups and going to a Lumia 920, Android is really crap," even though it's 100% true and accurate.) :D

[wbdillworth]

Tried Tune In. Station looks like it connects, but no sound. (Yes, the volume was up).

Also tried downloading TuneIn app, got: !This app is not available for your device.

I'm using a Nokia 810 on TMo.

would everybody please quit bytching! You guys asked him what problems he has had and no one is helping him. I don't use streaming music so I can't offer any help. Take your fanboy comments to another thread and offer this person some advice that may keep him a WP user.

[Isolated1]

I think that is a big problem with WP. You have 3 different kinds of people: 1) WP does everything they need and are happy with it. 2) WP does not do everything they need, but are willing to wait for updates. 3) WP does not do everything they need, so they're switching to iOS/Android.WPCentral has some of the worst fanboys I've ever seen, but you can point them out relatively quickly. They don't make up the majority of people here, but I agree they can be annoying.Legitimate issues need to be addressed, insulting people for their needs and how WP is not fulfilling them is hurting this community.

That's a great point and I agree. Right now I am person number 3.

I'm actually happy to see many people willing to stay in Nokia's corner. At this moment though, the blame cannot be on them in my opinion. The main reason I am deciding to go to Android (still have a month till my contract expires) is due to the WP8 operating system. It just isn't mature and stable enough. It is also lacking in features I use/need/want when compared to the Android.Granted, there are a lot of things I like about WP8. I actually love their apps. At this point in time, the app "eco system" needs a major overhaul rather than just companies being able to play the numbers game and say "I have more apps than the other therefore I am better". I'm the kind of guy that goes on Hulu and watch weird movies that I've never heard of before in my life. With WP8, I was actually excited to try the many new and never before heard of apps as well.

Many users have posted things that are lacking or features that are missing in WP8 and some of them shock me a bit. Can some of them be added in future updates? Absolutely. But at this point, I need definite answers. At the very least, I need someone from Nokia and Microsoft to actually acknowledge them as whether they are actual problems or the usual "that's now how you do it". It's also funny too how users bash Apple and Steve Jobs for the infamous "you're holding it wrong" quote. Basically, they are teasing users that Apple is smarter than them and therefore, they must be right.

With some hardcore WP8 fanboys, they are doing the exact same thing.
You don't need back and forward buttons in IE10! They are so yesterday! Use your recent history tabs!
You don't need VPN! Who actually uses VPN anyways?!
You don't need notification center! You're using WP8 wrong if you want one! Everything is in the tiles!
You don't need separate volume controls! Things are much more simpler if it is combined into one!

I personally don't want to wait for who knows how long before WP8 SP1 comes out and that's why while I'm still interested in the platform, will nonetheless have to use another OS.

[brmiller1976]

What I don't understand are people who point out logical UI are being branded as "fanboys."

If you need an old-fashioned Android or iOS UI with notification centers, nested menus, front and back buttons, and all that other 25-year-old legacy cruft from Atari ST days, using Windows Phone makes ZERO sense. You should just buy an iOS or Android device. And many of us are adamant about NOT bringing in all those horrible legacy things you just described because we DON'T want them ruining the platform's UI.

I had a nightmare about opening up IE on my 920 last night and getting the Chrome for Android UI, complete with six buttons across the top and lots and lots of nested menus. Then a notification window shade flew down, filled with spam and irrelevant notifications, forcing me to sort through dozens of irrelevant stuff to find actual relevant stuff. *shudder*

If the Android/iOS way of doing things works better for you, then by all means, you should go, just like many people in the 1980s dumped GUI systems for MS DOS. There's no shame in liking the "old fashioned" way of doing things... just let me use the modern platform and not have to see all the legacy crap I just escaped tacked back on in a misguided effort to appeal to the moribund mainstream OSes.