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  1. TheWeeBear's Avatar
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    Oh dear :(

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    It's Official: Google Is Evil Now

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    Oh dear, indeed.

    Hey, Weebear, this is taken from my Facebook (12th Jan 2012):

    Me: "It all started when they bought Youtube, kicked everyone out of their accounts and said "open a gmail account to continue using it". Didn't need Gmail - didn't want it. Now they're shoving Google + in our faces by tailoring searches around it and pushing Google + searches up the rankings. It won't be long before Youtube gets the same treatment. What annoys me the most about Google is their fixation with advertising. They record every move we make so they can tailor adverts towards us... with something as powerful as Facebook (Google +), they know they'll be able to tap into even more private info. They can stick it. I'm out."

    I so done with Google. Since moving over to Bing, I've been pleasantly surprised at how good it is at getting the job done. Youtube is next to go. Vimeo is my friend.
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    I know, it's just rediculous.

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    Amen to that.
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    Now you know why Bing is going higher in search rankings.
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    How dare they provide a whole range of online services for free, and have the nerve to show ads. Extremely EVIL!!!
    Good thing MS doesn't require a hotmail account to use their services. Or require windows phone users to sync with Zune, etc.
    Capitalism ain't free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threed61 View Post
    How dare they provide a whole range of online services for free, and have the nerve to show ads. Extremely EVIL!!!
    Did you read the article. Everyone shows ads, but this.... ???

    Good thing MS doesn't require a hotmail account to use their services.
    Weak comparison, I'm afraid. Hotmail users got additional services. Youtube users were kicked out of their accounts and forced to sign up with Gmail.

    Or require windows phone users to sync with Zune, etc.
    Capitalism ain't free.
    Seriously? Are you getting paid to write this stuff or what?

    Okay, it's getting late and I'm getting cranky. Good night folks.

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    Well hey now, at least Google is investing in good quality advertising.....



    How else would all of those SEXY CHRISTIAN SINGLES IN RAPID CITY LOOKING 4 U!!! ever find me if Google didn't tell them where I live? We need to look at this from the perspective of every single BLACK WOMEN SRCHING 4 MEN LIKE U IN RAPID CITY SD, and how beneficial this service will be for their love lives.



    Oh wow, I finally found my limit of sarcasm. I just can't muster anymore. By the way, those adds I mentioned both appeared today, through my Chrome adblock. This is going to get worse before it gets better. I wonder if Anonymous will "take down" any websites over this. Although, that's become a mere "so what?" now that they've done it so many times. Heck, they even took down the website for the European headquarters of my father's mining company (he runs one of their many, many iron ore mines, up in Minnesota). Oh well, if the government is interested in what I google search, I hope they either have an open mind (uh oh...) or strong stomachs. It may be fun to see a site like 4chan search-bomb something atrociously disgusting when this goes through in March and see what that does to their caching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Supes View Post
    Did you read the article. Everyone shows ads, but this.... ???



    Weak comparison, I'm afraid. Hotmail users got additional services. Youtube users were kicked out of their accounts and forced to sign up with Gmail.



    Seriously? Are you getting paid to write this stuff or what?

    Okay, it's getting late and I'm getting cranky. Good night folks.

    :D
    Seriously? Microsoft provides all their services out of the goodness of their heart, with no intent to show us adds, or sell us services? I never knew they were so charitable!
    The nice thing is, if you don't like Google, or Microsoft, or Apple, or Facebook, etc, you have other choices. The real beauty of the internet.
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    In light of their new search and privacy policies I'm going to minimize my google usage as much as possible. Just my take on it, to each his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottcraft View Post
    In light of their new search and privacy policies I'm going to minimize my google usage as much as possible. Just my take on it, to each his own.

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    If you'd like to know more about who's watching you, there is a program called Ghostery which I got at CNET which will tell you who is tracking at each site you visit. As I typed this, there are 14 'entities' tracking me at wpcentral. I don't think this site is evil either, they're a company who spends a lot to provide us with our favorite site, and would like to get paid for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threed61 View Post
    If you'd like to know more about who's watching you, there is a program called Ghostery which I got at CNET which will tell you who is tracking at each site you visit. As I typed this, there are 14 'entities' tracking me at wpcentral. I don't think this site is evil either, they're a company who spends a lot to provide us with our favorite site, and would like to get paid for it.
    I'll check that out. To me the difference between Google and a company like Microsoft is that Google's only source of income is ads whereas Microsoft actually sells a product. I don't think that necessarily makes Google evil, but it does make me want to avoid using their services.



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    Quote Originally Posted by scottcraft View Post
    I'll check that out. To me the difference between Google and a company like Microsoft is that Google's only source of income is ads whereas Microsoft actually sells a product. I don't think that necessarily makes Google evil, but it does make me want to avoid using their services.



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    I know Google scans your gmail for keywords to target ads and hotmail doesn't. (There's a funny MS spoof of this on Youtube). I don't know the difference in data collection practices between Google search and Bing search.
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    I'm almost completely google free. But I just like youtube too much, I actually hold off on getting that Gmail account, until there was no way back.

    Quote Originally Posted by threed61 View Post
    Seriously? Microsoft provides all their services out of the goodness of their heart, with no intent to show us adds, or sell us services? I never knew they were so charitable!
    The nice thing is, if you don't like Google, or Microsoft, or Apple, or Facebook, etc, you have other choices. The real beauty of the internet.
    What if you love Google but don't want to have your data shared to others in order to get bombarded by ads you don't care about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterfang View Post
    I'm almost completely google free. But I just like youtube too much, I actually hold off on getting that Gmail account, until there was no way back.



    What if you love Google but don't want to have your data shared to others in order to get bombarded by ads you don't care about?
    Dunno. I use incognito browsing sometimes. Does any search service not collect data, sell information and sell ads?
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    Google has always collected your information, that's no the problem. The problem is that now you don't have a chance against it. ( remember that most of the time you get a little notification at first that say " would you want to send your _______ to company to improve whatever?" and you accept or not.)
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    I think that's simply the price consumers pay when they stop voting with their wallets and chase after "free" lunches. My biggest problem with Google is that "we're the product" and we can't un-sell ourselves. I like knowing that if I don't like something I can choose to not buy their products. With Google the only thing you can do is not use their services. However, the general population has spoken and they've chosen free lunches > privacy. Google will make this change and people will continue using their services like nothing happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterfang View Post
    I'm almost completely google free. But I just like youtube too much, I actually hold off on getting that Gmail account, until there was no way back.
    Wait! I have to have a GMail account to log in to YouTube? I setup a YouTube account about a year ago, but Google just asked me to setup a use name an password. Have only logged in a few times, and not in a couple months. So has something changed? I avoid Google like the plague, so this "would" be a dealbreaker for me. None of their services are free. You pay by giving up your privacy, and fill their coffers, every day. Some people don't mind that. Fair enough. I do.

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    I still log into Youtube using my very old Yahoo account.
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    I've avoided a Google account like the plague. It's to the point that I purposely avoid an 18+ YouTube video because I don't want to create a Google account.

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    Perhaps I'm a cynic, but I've always figured Google's computers had put all my info together, targeted advertising can't work without it.
    what makes you folks think MS or any other American company does things any different? Bing makes money exactly the same way Google does. So does Yahoo, so does Apple, and on and on. The rest just never had a pompous 'do no evil' motto.
    And if your worried about Google, stay the heck away from Facebook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threed61 View Post
    Seriously? Microsoft provides all their services out of the goodness of their heart, with no intent to show us adds, or sell us services? I never knew they were so charitable!
    The nice thing is, if you don't like Google, or Microsoft, or Apple, or Facebook, etc, you have other choices. The real beauty of the internet.
    I pay for Microsoft services. As for ads, no one out there is so hellbent on privacy invasion compared to Google. They've taken, what was the norm, to a whole new level. I never really had a problem with the search engine tailoring searches to me (as it makes sense), but for them to take over Youtube, then push Google + in our faces, Google + searches pushed up the rankings, and now use ALL of these tools to further their advertising campaign - ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

    The only Google service I use it Youtube, and I can say that I am consciously looking for an alternative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threed61 View Post
    Perhaps I'm a cynic, but I've always figured Google's computers had put all my info together, targeted advertising can't work without it.
    what makes you folks think MS or any other American company does things any different? Bing makes money exactly the same way Google does. So does Yahoo, so does Apple, and on and on. The rest just never had a pompous 'do no evil' motto.
    And if your worried about Google, stay the heck away from Facebook.
    Because Microsoft isn't scanning me across multiple services without my permission. I can use Hotmail knowing what I type is private and won't show up as an ad the next time I use Bing or MSN.
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    Big Supes, no argument from me, I'd rather not be tracked by anyone.
    Dash, I mentioned earlier that hotmail isn't data mined, to MS's credit. Not being tracked across services probably needs a 'yet', if Google gets away with it MS probably will want to as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimski View Post
    Wait! I have to have a GMail account to log in to YouTube? I setup a YouTube account about a year ago, but Google just asked me to setup a use name an password. Have only logged in a few times, and not in a couple months. So has something changed? I avoid Google like the plague, so this "would" be a dealbreaker for me. None of their services are free. You pay by giving up your privacy, and fill their coffers, every day. Some people don't mind that. Fair enough. I do.

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    Oh it's awful. They keep pestering to get a Google Plus profile.
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