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  1. Bernard Ofori's Avatar
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    snapped these pictures yesterday with a friends samsung galaxy s4 and my nokia 928 after amber update. thought l would share and see what your thoughtsare on these pictures. sorry l didnt have the chance to label it. the above pictures are the lumia 928s and bottom is samsung s4. what do you think. has the amber updates really helped or it has not?
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    These were taken in different time of day. Not great for comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TechAbstract View Post
    These were taken in different time of day. Not great for comparison.
    okay thats your opinion. l had both phones in my hands. l know you would say that because of the car behind the toyota is different. these were taken at a car dealership and those cars were customer cars. had to wait for a few minutes to avoid getting people in the picture. look at the white van at the stop light at the light, both pictures had vans. that should tell you both phones were used at the same time of the day.
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    Pictures of the sky is better with 928 camera..Isn't the S4 on HDR mode?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alllies View Post
    Pictures of the sky is better with 928 camera..Isn't the S4 on HDR mode?
    both camera were default settings, l didnt change any camera settings. the 928 has better contrast right? what do you think?
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    Yes, the 928 pics are richer. No, I don't believe the pics were taken at different times of day, and in fact, if you look closely, it appears that the OP was standing in the same place to take both pictures. The one with the car for sale, you can tell that time has passed, though, as the shadows have changed angle, so the earth has rotated a bit. I'm not one to be able to judge by that how much time has passed, though. It looks to me like more than just a few minutes, but I could be wrong. I think certainly less than an hour, though. Definitely not worth arguing about with these two pics - the time of day is close enough to call it a good comparison IMO.

    Something I notice is that the 928 has a bit wider angle - in each picture you can see more of both sides with the 928 shots than the S4 shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hopmedic View Post
    Something I notice is that the 928 has a bit wider angle - in each picture you can see more of both sides with the 928 shots than the S4 shots.
    Yes l have noticed that too. the one with two different cars behind, l was waiting on these customers to move out of the way because they were talking to the car sales man. l might have waited a little too long but l had both phones in my hands. the rest of the pics has seconds of difference between them. mostly l used the samsung first.
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    Definitely think the 928 pictures are richer and just look nicer. Also, I don't know how to explain it but the S4 pictures look fake to me, like over processed or something
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    I did this same comparison when I exchanged and S4 for my 928. In every case the 928 pics came out with a wider angle, richer colors and didn't look over processed. To me the S4 pics look too bright. This is especially noticeable when shooting pics of the sky or a beach.
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    I wish I wasn't so lazy or I'd do a 928 vs Z10 thread, and maybe throw in a GS3 and iPhone 4S one as well. Alas I'm super lazy.
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    Personally I like the 928's pictures more, but that's by a hair. I think the S4 is one of the best camera phones out there so to even say that the 928 is comparable let alone slightly better at a glance I think Nokia are doing something right.

    But more to the point, as the owner of both phones and the person that took the pictures... what do YOU think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muessig View Post
    Personally I like the 928's pictures more, but that's by a hair. I think the S4 is one of the best camera phones out there so to even say that the 928 is comparable let alone slightly better at a glance I think Nokia are doing something right.

    But more to the point, as the owner of both phones and the person that took the pictures... what do YOU think?
    the s4, no doubts takes great pictures. l showed these pictures to a good friend of mine who owns an old HTC. he is just an average guy who doesnt care about how good a picture looks. l showed him these pictures for him to choose which he thinks looks better without telling him which one was an S4 or a lumia 928 because l wanted his honest opinion. honestly speaking he thought the 928 pictures looked better. l was surprised, a guy who isnt into how good pictures looked on phones literally thought the 928 pictures looked better. later l told him which phones l used.

    the S4 belongs to my friend whom l went over with to look at cars at the dealership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flackberry View Post
    I did this same comparison when I exchanged and S4 for my 928. In every case the 928 pics came out with a wider angle, richer colors and didn't look over processed. To me the S4 pics look too bright. This is especially noticeable when shooting pics of the sky or a beach.
    thank you for justifying this, l am not alone.lol. l had the same experience, when l took the pictures with the s4 the pictures looked washed out and too plain. l think its got to do with the screen. when l transferred the pictures to my phone for comparison, the s4 pictures looked bright and good on my 928. the 928 screen is really great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tk-093 View Post
    I wish I wasn't so lazy or I'd do a 928 vs Z10 thread, and maybe throw in a GS3 and iPhone 4S one as well. Alas I'm super lazy.
    please try and do this comparison. lol . it will be great if you did.
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    Ok, assuming these things uploaded in the right order it goes (1) 928 default camera app (2) iPhone 4s (3) 928 Nokia Pro Cam

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    You need to make them full size to really see them, but to me you can really tell the difference in the leaves on the tree on the left. Like a tool I left my Z10 on my desk to compare. I'll have to do it all over again tomorrow. :) I did take all three within probably 20 seconds of each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tk-093 View Post
    You need to make them full size to really see them, but to me you can really tell the difference in the leaves on the tree on the left. Like a tool I left my Z10 on my desk to compare. I'll have to do it all over again tomorrow. :) I did take all three within probably 20 seconds of each other.
    dont get me wrong, l love iphones, but their pictures are very boring to look at. iphone literally takes natural pictures. it takes pictures exactly the way what you see with your eyes making it personally boring for me.
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    I think a better test would be doing some low light shots inside -- granted can be harder to borrow additional phones for that. I have been thrilled with my 928 and it's capability inside. It's actually amazing sometimes because the display will show the dark scene and when you actually take the picture (not even using the verrrry nice xenon flash) it gets remarkably bright and clear.
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    I'll try to take some tonight.
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    And in all honesty, "low light" really means "standard indoor nighttime illumination".

    Nice being able to get worthwhile pics from my cellphone finally. I really should do a comparison with our couple year old Canon P&S.
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    Here are some of the same view, but around 8:30PM from a 928, iPhone 4S and a BB Z10. The 928 isn't exactly sharp but a heck of a lot lighter. No flash used on any of them, btw.

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    Ok, here are three more. Basement bar. Turned on the overhead lights but dimmed them way low. Behind me is a 20 gallon fish tank that is lit up.. Not a ton of light in there. No flash again.

    1. 928, 2. iPhone 4S, 3. Z10 (I think I did something wrong with the Z10 one...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tk-093 View Post
    Ok, here are three more. Basement bar. Turned on the overhead lights but dimmed them way low. Behind me is a 20 gallon fish tank that is lit up.. Not a ton of light in there. No flash again.

    1. 928, 2. iPhone 4S, 3. Z10 (I think I did something wrong with the Z10 one...)

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    the 928 shows its true colors all around. Wow what a difference. the S4 wont even come close in low light
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    Great thread. Nice to see the 928 being compared to some of the other popular smartphone cameras directly, instead of by proxy by way of the 920. I get that the 928 has the same camera module as the 920, but it would have at least been nice to see some low light comparisons to see how it fares to other cameras with it's xenon flash. Maybe it's a good thing, considering the white balance issues it has when it's on auto, which might have turned off some buyers.

    To my eyes, the pictures from S4 are sharper than those from the 928, it's particularly noticeable in the third (tree in the middle with the red car behind it) and fourth (bush in the middle with the blu e-cigs advertisement to the right) set. Now given that the S4 is praised as being one of the best smartphone cameras (discounting the 808 and 1020, since they're in a league of their own) I think the 928 held up rather nicely. There is definitely some softness, but not unbearably so.

    As far as the colors being over saturated goes, I think that's just a trade-off of the low-light capabilities. Not really sure how all of it works, but I'm sure being able to capture all that light in near darkness, affects how it take images in general including shots with good lighting. So we get a good all around camera, instead of a great one that we can only use half the time, I'd say that's a fair trade-off.
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    Yep, I like that it takes acceptable daytime pictures, but that is what you expect out of a high-end and well regarded smartphone nowadays. But adding inside/low-light capabilities, and honestly, the Pro cam interface (I have Proshot, but for ease of use prefer the Nokia) makes a nice difference. I'm hoping to play with my phone more over the next several months.

    (and man, the "reframing" aspect of the software makes me want a 1028 or whatever even more!)
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