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This is a pretty awesome list. I'm glad to think that even if the Lumia line doesn't work out like we hope it does, the company should still be around for quite some time.
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I think its safe to say that Nokia is the biggest contributor in the industry.. by far.. unfortunately it means nothing it todays markets. They still collect money from their vast patent portfolio, especially around the GSM tech.. even apple is paying for that one, and they don't like to pay for anything.. if they could, they would have said that they developed the GSM network.
Back to the 1980s: The legendary Nokia Mobira Cityman 25 yrs on – Nokia Conversations : the official Nokia blog
Mikhail Gorbachev speaking into a Nokia Mobira Cityman in 1989
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...09_306x423.jpg
Nokia workers making rubber boots in 1981
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...34_634x423.jpg
Also, the 9000 was the first, but I think the first significant development in smartphones came with this in 2000
Nokia 9210 Communicator - Full phone specifications
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/image...Nokia_9210.jpg
Also, this is very important to note.. Nokia had a working UX (on top of Symbian) specifically designed for touchscreens back in 2003, but they thought the market wasn't ready for it, and canned it. Well.. 4 years later they got a wake up call.. still paying for it today.
Nokia 7700-7710 Symbian OS, Series 90 UI, v.2.0
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_7700-570.php
http://st2.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/nokia/no7700_00.jpg
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I remember the 9210!! I thought it was an awesome phone when I was a kid
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If only they hadn't bough Symbian. What a horrible, horrible OS that was/is. From the very beginning. A (near, let's hope) fatal misstep, because they freaking owned the cellular market before smartphones. They could have picked PalmOS. Or even WinCE. Or Android. Anything but Symbian would have worked.
Horrible. I still have nightmares from coding on that abomination.
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If only they hadn't bough Symbian. What a horrible, horrible OS that was/is. From the very beginning. A (near, let's hope) fatal misstep, because they freaking owned the cellular market before smartphones. They could have picked PalmOS. Or even WinCE. Or Android. Anything but Symbian would have worked.
Horrible. I still have nightmares from coding on that abomination.
Well, at the time I think Symbian was a good option and despite its flaws, Symbian served Nokia very well for years and made them a lot of money. I don't think buying Symbian was a mistake, but hanging onto it for so long certainly was.
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The problem wasn't in the "hanging on to it", but rather in the way it was done. The whole project was horribly mismanaged.. if they had a clear direction in terms of development, things might have been different. There are way too many unknowns.. but like anything else, its not as black/white as people seem to think. The general consensus is that Symbian was old and outdated, but this is simply not true. Its core (EKA2) is actually quite "modern" in terms of what it can do.. at least as far as I understand from what I've read.. it might have been more difficult to develop, but that doesn't make it outdate or not capable of sustaining a modern/connected smartphone. What happened to it shows Nokia's incompetence more so than Symbian's deficiencies as an operating system.
For anyone interested.. this is an informative read: Why Nokia failed: 'Wasted 2,000 man years' on UIs that didn't work ? The Register
This is something the industry seems to overlook for some reason, but to me.. it kind of seemed like a big deal at the time
"I've called it the "for want of a nail" question: if Nokia had a UI, it would not have had to lose its independence. And as Nokia gave up its independence, Europe lost its last global technology platform. US and Japanese companies now dictate the market."
Its true.. Symbian was the only true "European OS" that had a chance to stand against the US software cartel. Nokia messed up...
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Those were some nice facts, though I already knew most of it thanks to a Finnish colleague at my last job who often "educated" me about Nokia.
In spite of their hard times, I wish they succeed. They've had some pretty good innovations and deserve to be in the phone race.
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socialcarpet Well, at the time I think Symbian was a good option and despite its flaws, Symbian served Nokia very well for years and made them a lot of money. I don't think buying Symbian was a mistake, but hanging onto it for so long certainly was.
I wouldn't say Symbian was bad 4-6 years ago, which is when I last used it.
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vlad0 I think its safe to say that Nokia is the biggest contributor in the industry.. by far.. unfortunately it means nothing it todays markets. They still collect money from their vast patent portfolio, especially around the GSM tech.. even apple is paying for that one, and they don't like to pay for anything.. if they could, they would have said that they developed the GSM network.
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Why do people have to ruin a great post by trying to take cheap shots at Apple ?
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I've had the luxury of living my whole life in the city where Nokia's mobile phone business started in and I've worked 3 different jobs within the campus. It's quite cool to look at old pictures of the same area (and sad to look it again now), cos on our city's standards, the Nokia campus was frigging huge. I've worked there as a security guard and I've seen like every corner of the campus.
The mobile phone industry was based on purchasing a local TV-manufacturer called Salora. Well, it first started off as just a co-operation, but later on Nokia bought the entire company to itself. The mobile phone industry isn't overly linked to the rubber boots/tire/etc business, and I'm not even exactly sure what made them do that jump, nowadays they are different companies already pretty much. The co-operational part was called Mobira. The original Mobira factory is still up and during the later years it was used as a pre-production facility where they produced prototypes. I believe Nokia sold this facility too.
In a city of roughly 25k people, Nokia was a HUGE employer with at it's peak times like 3000 people on it's roster. The factory-side of things shut down last fall and took most of the jobs with them (including mine), as most of the stuff was related to keeping the factory running (like, no need for storage-people if you have nothing to store). The R&D still stayed in Salo for the time being, so not all jobs are completely gone yet. However the whole city is in trouble now cos it can't run all the old services with greatly diminished tax income.
As for the Lumia name, personally I think that it more derivates from the the words that imply "light". Naturally the fact that it also happens to be a finnish word (although rarely used in that form, pretty much only in one idiom with a negative connotation) is most likely not a coincidence.
There's so much more I could and want to tell you, but I don't wanna risk breaking any NDAs, although I don't know how much they care when most of it has been discontinued and sold to other corporations already :P
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^ oh... cmon.. you have to give us more than that :)
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Mr.Willie Why do people have to ruin a great post by trying to take cheap shots at Apple ?
Well they are paying, but they used Nokia's tech for a long time before they finally had no choice but to pay up. Its just how they are.. always "the first" but if you dig a little deeper you find out that nothing can be further away from the truth.
Nokia enters into patent license agreement with Apple » Nokia – Press
Apple agrees to pay Nokia patent licensing fees | Apple - CNET News
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Coreldan As for the Lumia name, personally I think that it more derivates from the the words that imply "light". Naturally the fact that it also happens to be a finnish word (although rarely used in that form, pretty much only in one idiom with a negative connotation) is most likely not a coincidence.
It's also spanish for "prostitute", at least that's what I've heard ;)
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HaibaneReki It's also spanish for "prostitute", at least that's what I've heard ;)
That would be prostituta (female) or prostituto (male).
Usualy you can just add an "a" or "o" to the end of a word to translate from English to Spanish. :grin: JK
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They also made one of the biggest flops in video game history! The taco pho- err.. The Nokia N-Gage!
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Nokia invented side talking :Dhttp://i.imgur.com/ORmPRTc.jpg
Oh and some random facts:
*In the 1980s, Telenokia was the only Western company that could sell digital exchanges to the Soviet Union in any quantities. Its profit margin was so high that it was never made public.
*Nokias market value was 300 billion EUR in 2000 vs. Apple today 430 billion USD
Heres full history of Nokia: History of Nokia Corporation – FundingUniverse
