[Dinky89484]

Lumia 920's with issues > Lumia 920's without issues? What are your thoughts?

[Paladinleeds]

I would presume by and large the Lumia 920s are without issues. I'm having some very quirky software bugs on my Nokia though, but they seem to be app/OS related as opposed to hardware related.

[cme4oil]

I would say simply that you always hear about the people having a problem and you don't hear to much from people completely happy with their phone.

[Alex Kj]

I would say simply that you always hear about the people having a problem and you don't hear to much from people completely happy with their phone.

That's true, but going through 4 or more replacement units (like some people here already did) may suggest that Nokia might have an above average amount of overall defective units ;-) Still, though, the amount of non-defective units is most likely higher, judging by the fact that there hasn't been an official "recall" of some sorts.

[dkp23]

you are wrong, lumia 920s without issues is greater than lumia 920s with issues.

So lumia 920s without issues > lumia 920s with issues.

[Dinky89484]

I think most assume that you only hear from those that have issues (especially on this forum) and you don't hear from those walking around with perfect Lumia 920's. I'm guessing though that there are people out there who aren't too gadget-centric who have issues with their Lumia 920...only we don't hear from them because they're not the types to go online and onto forums.

[xsonwong]

Only users have issues will voice out, otherwise keep using their phone happily

[killzone killzo]

you are wrong, lumia 920s without issues is greater than lumia 920s with issues.

So lumia 920s without issues > lumia 920s with issues.

Actually, you are ALL wrong. The formula is a little more complex:

Owners who found out that Lumias are defective < owners who still didn't find out.

The truth is ALL Lumias are defective someway or another.

[PBR_248]

Actually, you are ALL wrong. The formula is a little more complex:

Owners who found out that Lumias are defective < owners who still didn't find out.

The truth is ALL Lumias are defective someway or another.

Oh and of course, you've traveled the world and tested ALL Lumias, 920,900,820,710,620,ect.

Dont make statements unless you can back it up

[GhostITMG]

Wrooooong. My Lumia 920 has zero issues. On occasion, I install an app that causes battery issues, but it's always the app. Everything about my phone itself is flawless. No creaking at the top, no overheating, no random restarts, no dust behind the front facing camera and everything about the phone works exactly like it should. And I consider myself to be very technically enhanced, so I'm certain there's not some issue that I'm just not aware of.

Thanks for playing though!

[pewpewbangbang]

This is how it really is.

Most if not all issues are software related. Soft daytime photo's, some battery drain issues, software brick, etc....

I have yet to see some real hardware problems like LCD leakage, battery blowing up, etc...

But there are always going to be some hardware problems. From what I can tell, the number of defective Lumia 920 units is very low meaning very good quality control on Nokia's part.

People that have issues usually look to find out by googling and going on a forum like this, so you only really hear about the problems, which is really a tiny portion of Lumia 920 owners. And even then, almost all of them are software related.

I'm going to be a lumia 920 owner soon to try it out, I've had a ton of phones already. The Galaxy Nexus definitely had some real defective quality control issues with the AMOLED display, it was all over XDA forums etc...One X had some defective units, especially with the battery and just overall quality it was pretty big on the XDA forums as well. I'll just say from my readings/research, the Lumia 920 doesn't even compare or make the tiniest of scratches to the issues those two above phones had or most flagships.

[rbxtreme]

Just a very small addition to your theory... All phones are defective in their own ways. We then learn to live with the problems.
I have a Lumia 920 black for about 2 weeks and I have been lucky about getting a Lumia without issues and have mentioned it across the forums but only for the vibration rattle. But then having used smartphones for the last 5 years or so I have realized that majority of us are always smarter than these phones hence we find issues with them(which is good) but then the hard fact is these phones are again built by normal people (not super humans) so we need to accept that there could be issues(I'm not talking of serious issues like a dead on arrival phone). Life is never problem free, so live with it.

[TryllZ]

I work at a Service Center for all devices, but I dont see too many Lumia, yes there are dead Lumias but there are more iphones & dead samsungs in our drawers, than Lumias....I dont think it is because iphones & S3 sell more...

[autumnride]

Just a very small addition to your theory... All phones are defective in their own ways. We then learn to live with the problems.
I have a Lumia 920 black for about 2 weeks and I have been lucky about getting a Lumia without issues and have mentioned it across the forums but only for the vibration rattle. But then having used smartphones for the last 5 years or so I have realized that majority of us are always smarter than these phones hence we find issues with them(which is good) but then the hard fact is these phones are again built by normal people (not super humans) so we need to accept that there could be issues(I'm not talking of serious issues like a dead on arrival phone). Life is never problem free, so live with it.

Nope... Buying a flagship phone, you can expect having a perfectly working phone!

[PBR_248]

Nope... Buying a flagship phone, you can expect having a perfectly working phone!

Just because its working, doesnt mean it doesn't have problems

[yodies]

My only niggle so far with the phone is that it won't read SMS text messages when I'm playing music or a podcast over Bluetooth. It was a feature I really loved about my old WP7 device that just doesn't work with the 920 in the same car as the DVP.

[pdskep]

My only niggle so far with the phone is that it won't read SMS text messages when I'm playing music or a podcast over Bluetooth. It was a feature I really loved about my old WP7 device that just doesn't work with the 920 in the same car as the DVP.

Mine either, but I think that's a software issue. It appears from the Bluetooth section of this forum MS is losing a lot of business because of their BT connectivity issues. Fortunately I don't drive a lot so I can live with it.

[DTSDude]

This is how it really is.

Most if not all issues are software related. Soft daytime photo's, some battery drain issues, software brick, etc....

I have yet to see some real hardware problems like LCD leakage, battery blowing up, etc...

But there are always going to be some hardware problems. From what I can tell, the number of defective Lumia 920 units is very low meaning very good quality control on Nokia's part.

People that have issues usually look to find out by googling and going on a forum like this, so you only really hear about the problems, which is really a tiny portion of Lumia 920 owners. And even then, almost all of them are software related.

I'm going to be a lumia 920 owner soon to try it out, I've had a ton of phones already. The Galaxy Nexus definitely had some real defective quality control issues with the AMOLED display, it was all over XDA forums etc...One X had some defective units, especially with the battery and just overall quality it was pretty big on the XDA forums as well. I'll just say from my readings/research, the Lumia 920 doesn't even compare or make the tiniest of scratches to the issues those two above phones had or most flagships.

Disagree, if there was a mem test app for these phones I think we'd be able to prove the people with the constant freeze/reboot issues have physically defective units. I was one of those people, I've replaced my handset and am doing everything and more of what I had on the old phone without any problems. For other issues like battery I agree there's most likely just a firmware fix required.

[rbxtreme]

Nope... Buying a flagship phone, you can expect having a perfectly working phone!

I'm not saying that every flagship is,faulty or fault free, But only that if you look around at smartphones (I'm narrowing my point to only smartphones) can you point out one flagship which was fault free... About the phone perfectly working that's what any phone is supposed to do... That's what we pay for... But then some way or the other these phones tend to slip expectations.For eg I never never in my life used the vibration alert on any phone... But after two weeks of using L920 I read about the vibration rattle.. I check my phone ... Ohhh I have it. If I said this lacks perfection and went for a replacement, in a week I'll learn that the battery gives up on me terribly.. Now replacement again this time my camera has green spots.... Gosh another replacement....so what do I do... I should have disabled the vibration and moved with my life....and if I never read the issues on the forums .... My ignorance would have also agreed to my phone being perfect... So in case you got a perfect phone I'm very happy for you.... But I'm like every other person who loves their L920 through its UPS and downs....

[slysy]

There is a ten page thread about proximity sensor issues on the Nokia forums. So this issue at least seems fairly widespread

[Dinky89484]

There is a ten page thread about proximity sensor issues on the Nokia forums. So this issue at least seems fairly widespread

I wonder if the whole bricking issue when performing a hard reset is a widespread issue because I bet MOST Lumia 920 users don't perform hard resets to know.

[Raghu Gundlapalli]

My Old Lumia 920 used to just shutdown some times, i had to do a soft reset to switch on my phone, surprisingly in the night when i am charging not using it, Drive + Beta was having issues too, just used to get struck, some times doesn't show my location, it used to get warm when i am charging, i did a warranty exchange, i had new lumia 920 for over 3 weeks now & no issues what so ever. unfortunately i did a warranty exchange with in 30 days i still got a refurbished phone. So YES some phones do have quality issues, but if they are working fine they are great phones. Still not thrilled with still photos though cant take sharp photos, great videos for sure.

[kcovert]

Mine has been mostly trouble free, on rare occasions I've had to do a hard reset but believe apps caused them. Might want to take note of the last app you ran, or are still running, when and if a problems pops up.

[pewpewbangbang]

I just got a Lumia 920 to test out.

Seems problem free so far. WIll make it my daily driver for a bit when the nano-sim adapter delivers.

What exactly is the vibration rattle? I guess I feel like this unit may have it but honestly, just feels like vibration to me.

[Dinky89484]

Mine has been mostly trouble free, on rare occasions I've had to do a hard reset but believe apps caused them. Might want to take note of the last app you ran, or are still running, when and if a problems pops up.

Did you perform an actual HARD reset or just a soft reset (volume down + power button)? If so, you can check off another known Lumia 920 issue off your list. Many have had their phones frozen up (or bricked) after performing a hard reset.