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  1. tebugg's Avatar
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    i will say this from my experience. i have a gs3 and lumia 920. both flagships of their company's. i am a fan of technology, not a specific company. my gs3 (on my 2nd one) does indeed get worse battery life than my lumia 920. that's not biased, thats fact. i can go all day on my lumia 920 doing the EXACT same thing's with the exact same amount of time doing these things as my gs3, and my gs3 needs to be recharged throughout the day or it wont make it. my lumia 920 doesnt. but it will be around 30% battery life. i use my phone alot because my job needs me to. there's nothing the gs3 can do that my lumia 920 cant do. i like both of them. i switch days between using both of them. the forbes author must have not used a gs3. if he had, and he was unbiased, he would be putting in that article "while not as bad as a galaxy s3, the lumia 920's battery could be better". i use the camera on both of these phones. first off, the gs3's video capture quality is not even close to the lumia's. that's not even debatable. the gs3 at times will take a better picture as far as clarity goes than the lumia 920. the low-light comparison isnt even debatable, lumia 920 wins. the gs3 has a microsd card slot, i wish the lumia 920 did also. even with it already having 32gb (26gb usable).

    forbes isnt the only site that seems to have an agenda towards windows phone. lots of times on phonearena i am calling out the author of the article on being clearly biased. these sites have ppl or company's that give them money to report certain things. also, a biased article will get alot more traffic than an unbiased article because it will bring the fans of both sides to argue in the comments. the days of unbiased articles are pretty much gone. you come across a couple a month and it makes you appreciative, but for every unbiased article there are 5 written that same day that are biased. (just made up that statistic to get my point across) it's the way journalism is today. no more journalism integrity to make sure the public gets the truth. thats gone.
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    My first defective phone I backed up before and restored when I got the 2nd phone. Exact settings I didn't want to change anything, the 2nd phone battery life was great.

    I had to get a third phone so I backed up and restored to the third phone and the battery life sucked. So I've been on both sides of a restore performing well and bad.

    So I decided to do a factory reset and do a complete reinstall from scratch. I had no background tasks, less apps no what Sapp Skype and the phone still drained. So the phone is defective. Doesn't matter to me if its the battery or software, the fact of the matter is, its bad and whether its the software or battery doesn't really change anything.

    So I'm getting another replacement again. If I do a restore, I should expect almost the same performance, the fact the performance was even worse in addition to random reboots, it frustrating. Especially when the phone came with portico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wjlim3 View Post
    Invertme, you never have overheating issues? not even with browsing and playing high powered games?

    Nope. At the most I got a very slight warming of the back but nothing that seemed abnormal. It gets its warmest when charging but cools down almost right away when I pull it off the charger - but still not very warm or not what's normal for a phone.

    My wife's got hot right away when she first got her white 920. It was quite warm but only did it once. I had her hard reset the phone and it's never happened since.

    I also get a about 30 hours of use and like I said I use my phone a lot. I am a wordament addict.. I pretty much play a game every time I have a free few minutes.
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    30 hours sporadically playing wordament?! 0.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdhooghe View Post
    30 hours sporadically playing wordament?! 0.0
    I'm having a hard time believing that. Wordament burns one % of charge about every two minutes on my 920. It does the same thing on my iPhone.
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    Invertme, wow, i must be rather unfortunate then....

    may I know how many hours of IE/web browsing can you get from the phone? (cellular or wifi, please specify) Thanks.

    I am quite sure mine doesn't last longer than 5 hours of full cellular browsing if I use it from fully charged state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by conanheath View Post
    You people amuse me. His experience is right on par with quite a few actually, me included. I know you think the world revolves around you and your experience with phone is the only one that matters. Read the forums on this sight. He didn't put anything in the article that probably wasn't true of his experience with phone. Bad battery life, camera fuzziness, bricked phone after reset. Have you not read the forums? All pretty common experiences with the 920. I'm glad you have had a nice experience with 920 but quite a few have not. For a flagship phone I would expect better. From Nokia I would hope for much better results. It's his experience, not yours.
    Actually, given forums are places where people flock to complain, the volume of complaints is quite low for WP8 devices. There is also a certain irony in someone saying "I know you think the world revolves around you and your experience with phone is the only one that matters." and then positing an opinion that is based upon their own experience and then assuming that is the norm for the average user. Ranks up there with people who like to say they are giving an objective opinion about something in contrast to everyone else's subjective opinions.
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    Well, the lil woman came home from work with a drained 920. I think we jinxed her by talking about it. Her phone got hot and the battery died.

    This still hasn't happened to me. Maybe I'm just lucky.
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    Lol, the article is filled with haters with their subjective opinion... Not even worth commenting on that article.
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    @realwarder - it looks like you just got your phone. I have an 822 and had the same issue initially. Drain the battery, recharge, and repeat a couple of times. Once you have done that, you will get much better battery life. I can go 36 hours with moderate usage and about 15 hours with heavier usage. Don't judge the battery or the phone quite yet on just getting the phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ntropy99 View Post
    @realwarder - it looks like you just got your phone. I have an 822 and had the same issue initially. Drain the battery, recharge, and repeat a couple of times. Once you have done that, you will get much better battery life. I can go 36 hours with moderate usage and about 15 hours with heavier usage. Don't judge the battery or the phone quite yet on just getting the phone.
    Yes, this happened to me(920) as well, although I do get mysterious battery drains on occasion, but I'm not dissatisfied with my battery life.
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    Nothing to worry about. F... this article and two "ihurt" fanboys commenting the same bull***t about nokias payroll ;]. Yeah i was also hating my lumia becouse it was overheating and draining battery 2 weeks after purchase. Now i know that we've a lot of bugged apps on the WP market and the OS itself also is not perfect and need a lot of polish (idle drain,background taks loops ect.). After the portico update most of my international rm821 problems don't exist anymore. The phone likes to get warm in bad reception areas or using IE or games but everything is going in the right direction. I hope that next software updates will appear soon. This phone needs them ! It was rushed just like the WP8 and thats the truth. Many of first buyers are just betatesters. Giving their own mony on the device and testing it for free ;].
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    I just don't understand why people react so viscerally to these articles and take them so personally. If you like your device, what does anyone care what gets written? I'm always amazed by this phenomenon; I have my issues with the Lumia 920, but I'm sticking with the device for now, and I'm certainly not bothered by negative reviews. The only way I might possibly take those reviews personally would be if I was the designer of the device; other than that, their comments are as valid or invalid as anyone's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkp23 View Post
    I've experienced both type of battery performances, two 920s with terrible batter life and one with good battery life.

    You can put the blame on some apps, but I was able to restore my settings and apps from my original 920 that had major battery issues into a 2nd phone. THe 2nd phone battery life was great and could last me more than a day easily with the same exact settings and apps. After performing well, i pushed the 2nd phone harder downloading more apps, appsi didn't need and apps i did need with more apps running in the background and the 2nd phone performed just as good as basic settings. Now i get a 3rd phone, you may ask why i gave up my 2nd phone, i gave it to a family member bcause her phone bricked. So i get the 3rd phone, did a restore and not only did i get battery drain, now i get a rebooting problem with a phone that came with the "portico" update. An update that was supposed to rectify the rebooting issue.

    So in my experience and my experience the world revolves around, apps had nothing to do with my terrible bad experiences, the phone itself was the issue.

    5 of my immediate family members have 920s uincluding myself, 3 of them were defective. There is an issue with these devices, and coming from an iphone from 2007-2011 and never having to do a warranty exchange for them, i've experienced multiple with nokia's 900 and 920 within a year.

    So it is true, it is like a lottery, the chances you get a good phone and a bad phone is not so different.
    Interesting to know. That's unfortunate as well, I hope MS tightens the reins on their OEM partners if this type of thing occurs. Going by your experience the blame could be laid squarely on Nokia and not WP8 itself. Hopefully someone at MS will send a nasty-gram to Nokia telling them to smarten the F up over this and things will get rectified.
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    that's pretty much why i took mine back ;(
    its bulky, heavy, overheats, has a short battery life, and a horrible camera.

    that is a bit harsh though. it was bulky and heavy, but not so much more than any other phone with a case. Mine totally did over heat and have terrible battery life.. but i thought the camera was excellent. especially low light performance was great.. loved wireless charging as well.

    they missed one other reason why i took mine back, bugginess. i had issues with the mac sync app. it flat out stopped working. also wireless hotspot was completely broken. i didn't pay extra for hot spot not to use it. also it crashed several times. other than that, if they could fix those issues then they could have a winner.
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    Wow. I didn't know that Forbes had been taken over by The Verge!

    They can go back to typing in their "reviews" on their feather light iPhones swaddled in 4 pounds of Morphie Juice Pac so it will last for an hour and not return to kit form if a dust mote falls on the screen 😎
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadSci2 View Post
    Wow. I didn't know that Forbes had been taken over by The Verge!

    They can go back to typing in their "reviews" on their feather light iPhones swaddled in 4 pounds of Morphie Juice Pac so it will last for an hour and not return to kit form if a dust mote falls on the screen 😎
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    lol so true about the mophie juice packs lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by PDADoctor View Post
    I just don't understand why people react so viscerally to these articles and take them so personally. If you like your device, what does anyone care what gets written? I'm always amazed by this phenomenon; I have my issues with the Lumia 920, but I'm sticking with the device for now, and I'm certainly not bothered by negative reviews. The only way I might possibly take those reviews personally would be if I was the designer of the device; other than that, their comments are as valid or invalid as anyone's.
    How dare you interject common sense, logic and reason into this thread!! :-)
    Make with the WP purchase already one time why dontcha for pete's sake. Honestly.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseballbert View Post
    How dare you interject common sense, logic and reason into this thread!! :-)
    I think what annoys most of the people that have commented is that this so called review is by no means written objectively. I own a 920 is it perfect? No, but it is by no means as bad as this review makes it out to be. Case in point, the only thing that the reviews of the major sites can agree on is the excellent low light performance of the 920's camera yet he states that it takes bad low light shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PDADoctor View Post
    I just don't understand why people react so viscerally to these articles and take them so personally. If you like your device, what does anyone care what gets written? I'm always amazed by this phenomenon; I have my issues with the Lumia 920, but I'm sticking with the device for now, and I'm certainly not bothered by negative reviews. The only way I might possibly take those reviews personally would be if I was the designer of the device; other than that, their comments are as valid or invalid as anyone's.
    Consumers read reviews to get an idea of the product, let alone get interest in the first place. Imagine a first time goer seeing a review for a "Windows Phone", and all the review does is bash the living heck out of the product. You think the consumer will be interested as much as he was prior to that? What about someone who is on the fence of buying a Lumia? Reviews are made for a reason. To not only give the prospective consumer information on purchasing a product, but also it can be used as a tool to either increase or decrease sales.
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    I am born and raised in the bay area and the devotion in the hipster crowd to be cool at all costs is way crazy here, even overboard. Because of that they will defend whatever aspects that make them cool to be even cooler (iphone or android)! Think about it, if they don't have the "cool" thing, they are no longer a "hipster." The minute I saw the author say he was in the bay ... it made perfect sense. Dude is just trying to up his brownie points.

    The higher "elite" giving positive reviews will trickle down to the fake hipsters. I am sure that some of these elites positive words of windows phone is causing hipster's to take another glance.

    The "hip" thing to be in the bay area is to make yourself look like one of four things: you work for apple or you work for google or your some kind of social magnet that everyone needs on their friend's list or your some kind of successful entrepreneur who has tons of money to party while you work. Don't believe me? Try it.... go to the city's bars/restaurants and I can almost guarantee you just about everyone will claim one of those. These folks will defend what makes them "cool" hard and to the very end.
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    Okay, fair enough. But if one already has their device and is happy with it, then again, why care what anyone else reads? They can say whatever they want, I have mine and I'm good.

    Perhaps the gent was right: what am I doing trying to inject reason into all this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDADoctor View Post
    I just don't understand why people react so viscerally to these articles and take them so personally. If you like your device, what does anyone care what gets written? I'm always amazed by this phenomenon; I have my issues with the Lumia 920, but I'm sticking with the device for now, and I'm certainly not bothered by negative reviews. The only way I might possibly take those reviews personally would be if I was the designer of the device; other than that, their comments are as valid or invalid as anyone's.
    I don't mind if someone writes a review and finds a product I happen to like to be flawed. But what I do expect is the review to be slightly objective on some form. Like I mentioned before if you are going to say compare camera quality give us pictures from both devices. And don't just assume another device must be better but not even test it and then claim it as fact in what is supposed to be a review.
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    I e-mailed the author a couple days ago and told him to turn comments back on. Don't know if it was my prodding, but comments appear to be open on this article again. So have at him. :D
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    People should just ignore those clowns. Giving them clicks is exactly what they want when they write such crap.
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