12-24-2012, 11:55 AM #26
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I am a developer and unless you make a smash hit app, then it's barely worth the time and the effort.
I know a man who spent 6 month writing a game for the iPad, made $153 in the next 4 months.
For my apps, for each paid version, 100+ people pirated it.
- 12-24-2012, 11:59 AM #27
You have it backwards. I use the services I use, and my OS better support, not "Let me change all the services I use because my OS can't or won't support it."
I've used dropbox since the beta. I've used gmail since 2004. I have absolutely NO interest in changing the services I use. They work. They work well. I've used them for years. I know how they work, I know they're reliable. It's a fundamentally conservative position, but I don't care. It works really well for me. My school and job both use gmail, in addition to my personal account. How SOL am I in a month? Pretty much screwed. Tons of universities and corporations have switched to gmail. This stuff is not optional for WP8 to be a viable ecosystem and "just switch your whole life to another provider" is not a real answer.
12-24-2012, 12:17 PM #28
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- 12-24-2012, 12:35 PM #29
Switching to Outlook mail is actually pretty seemless. You set gmail to forward to your hotmail address, then there's an import tool called Trueswitch (free) that imports all of your mail. Literally everything from my 11-year-old account imported, all 7 gigs of it. You could already import contacts and calendar from Google, so that was covered.
Using Outlook.com for the last few weeks, find that I like it better. It's cleaner, less cluttered, and has options (select ALL mail items when you check the box in the upper left, not just what's on the screen) that Gmail seems to have dropped. It also has a reading pane view, like Outlook 2010 that really works well. And some automatic smart folders for shipping notices, pictures, etc. You can even set your Gmail account as a "send as" address and most of your contacts would never know the difference.
I'm not trying to sell you on switching. I just want you to be educated. It was really that easy and Outlook mail is a different beast from Hotmail. It's VERY good. I didn't think I could switch after using Gmail for over a decade and I couldn't be happier. Activesync was just THAT important to me. It's not just mobile devices: Windows 8, Mac Mail, etc. won't work with your Gmail account as well now that they have dropped Activesync. I can't live in that world.
- 12-24-2012, 01:46 PM #33
- 12-24-2012, 01:50 PM #34
Microsoft can add carddav/caldav, but it does not work as well as EAS so you know how the story goes. They add in the support, contacts don't sync right and the world blames Microsoft. carddav support on my MacBook air stinks too.....the standard is not great, and the google support of it is even worse.
- 12-24-2012, 01:51 PM #35
- 12-24-2012, 02:03 PM #36
WP is still way better than iOS or Android. I can do more faster and quicker on my 920 versus the Android and iPhone I had. They weren't bad platforms, but with WP I can check my email and calendar quicker, see updates from family with the group feature, and it is just so much more refined.
12-24-2012, 03:06 PM #37
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12-24-2012, 03:10 PM #38
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12-24-2012, 03:16 PM #39
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It's not the fault of the WP8 that you bought a phone with an OS that doesn't support your usage scenario as well as you'd like.
- 12-24-2012, 04:26 PM #40
It's not just gmail though. 100 million people use dropbox. If you can't support dropbox, you need to get serious.
12-25-2012, 12:13 AM #43
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- 12-25-2012, 07:54 AM #44
I guess I live in a rose-colored world either way, as they pushed out Portico on AT&T less than six weeks from the time they launched WP8. That seems incredibly quick to me, in fact, not certain when I have seen an update come so quickly.
- 12-25-2012, 07:58 AM #46
12-25-2012, 08:12 AM #47
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12-25-2012, 08:13 AM #48
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I think you have it backwards, It is not Microsoft dropping the support, it is Google who is the bad guy. Im not gonna let my email provider decide what hardware I buy or what OS I run. It is consumers like you that make it possible for companies like Google to screw consumers over, the kind that accepts being screwed over. I will buy whatever product I want, if some service provider I use will not support my new product I will pick one of the many alternatives availiable, no one will make money on me and at the same time try to screw me over. If it was Microsoft trying to decide what email provider I could use I would sell my phone, but that is not the case, it is Google who tries to decide which phone I can buy if I want to use their services, so then I will not use their services.
- 12-25-2012, 08:36 AM #49
I think the surprising stories are the WP7 dev 's that we new WP8 users hear about who are announcing they're jumping ship. Long time developers bailing. To someone who is switching from iOS or android and sees that it sounds an alarm in our minds that if MS can't keep the developers it had on 7, what's that say for the likely scenario of it attracting the ones we all want quickly on WP period.
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12-25-2012, 10:26 AM #50
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all phone..platforms are good...i had them all..
just buy the one that useful to you.
i see ppl swap..trade..sell and buy phone all over everyday.
i already sold SGS3//then traded my iphone5..back to note2..sold and got me a L920 now.
trust me all of them are good top smart..just get the one useful for you.
come back again to WP at later time..when useful for you.
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