[Only Mama Knows]

Good news

[VagrantWade]

brmiller and winterfang are in the spin room as we speak

[brmiller1976]

I'm glad you think so often (and so fondly) of me, VacantWade.

Obviously, Nokia is just extending it's unbeatably awesome "coming soon" strategy from its rollout to its technology platforms, due to popular demand.

When will I get the DSLR quality that Nokia promised? Not today... but coming soon with an update! :D

[Winning Guy]

brmiller and winterfang are in the spin room as we speak

Wow. You were spot on. Well, for half of your prediction.

[brmiller1976]

I'm not in the spin room. I'm just like Beetlejuice. When invoked, I appear for my adoring fans. :D

(On a slightly more serious note, one can only wonder what the reaction would be if HTC promised great sound with Beats, delivered muddy poor-quality sound, and then said "we'll fix it soon with a firmware update." Do you think it would be pitched by The Usual Suspects as Good News for HTC?) ;)

[scottcraft]

Hopefully the update will make the 920 camera unquestionably better than anything else beside the 808. At least better than the iPhone and the androids.

[Winning Guy]

With HTC I can see people hesitating because they don't have a history of fixing problems. They'd just come out with a new model without the problem.

At least Nokia has a solid record of servicing their user base.

[vp710]

This exactly. HTC would not even acknowledge the problem and most probably never fix it.

Sent from my Lumia 710 using Board Express

[brmiller1976]

Riiiiiiiiiight.

The company that is launching with a known-defective camera and promising a fix at a future date is more trustworthy than the company launching with a phone that's been confirmed flawless by reviewers.

Goodness me. My ears are blushing from the gall of it! :D

[red grenadine]

Why can't they get this **** straight before launching the device?

Nokia's livelihood as an ongoing business essentially depends on the success of this device, yet they continue to flub everything about it.

I'm just completely disappointed. If this is their best effort, then they deserve to go under. Kudos for Microsoft for having a backup plan.

[brmiller1976]

PS -- shouldn't the headline be "Nokia Confirms Lumia 920 Camera Defective, Promises Fix 'In The Coming Months'?" ;)

[scottcraft]

I think it's great that Nokia has acknowledged a problem and promised a fix, but seems like if the camera is the big selling point they would have tested it and fixed the problem before releasing the phone to the public.

[Winning Guy]

Riiiiiiiiiight.

The company that is launching with a known-defective camera and promising a fix at a future date is more trustworthy than the company launching with a phone that's been confirmed flawless by reviewers.

Goodness me. My ears are blushing from the gall of it! :D

Defective camera? Being a little over dramatic there.

The camera is great as-is. But people want it to be in the conversation as the "best" for all environments.

So Nokia is going to update it to improve it in the areas where it's not as strong as the iPhone.

That's a far cry from "defective."

Defective would be the sound quality and reception on something like the HTC Titan.

[Winning Guy]

I think it's great that Nokia has acknowledged a problem and promised a fix, but seems like if the camera is the big selling point they would have tested it and fixed the problem before releasing the phone to the public.

The "problem" is that it isn't the BEST in full daylight.

It's not like it's a bad camera.

It totally kicks everyone else's **** in low light.

[brmiller1976]

The camera is broken -- otherwise it wouldn't need a "fix."

To be serious for a rare moment, it's just more evidence of how badly this launch has been executed. Easily the most incompetent tech launch since the Osborne II. Launch a phone differentiated almost entirely by its camera, then concede in public that the camera doesn't perform well in daylight but "a fix is coming."

Yeesh.

Oh, and boys -- if you don't want me winding you up, don't drop my name in public ;)

[VagrantWade]

The camera is broken -- otherwise it wouldn't need a "fix."

To be serious for a rare moment, it's just more evidence of how badly this launch has been executed. Easily the most incompetent tech launch since the Osborne II. Launch a phone differentiated almost entirely by its camera, then concede in public that the camera doesn't perform well in daylight but "a fix is coming."

Yeesh.

Oh, and boys -- if you don't want me winding you up, don't drop my name in public ;)

Don't worry I still have the thread bookmarked where you said T-Mobile would get the devices before AT&T.

[brmiller1976]

Oh, you're not the only one :D

[scottcraft]

The "problem" is that it isn't the BEST in full daylight.

It's not like it's a bad camera.

It totally kicks everyone else's **** in low light.

Of course it's not a bad camera at all and I would love to have that phone, but with the pureview name and all the hype regarding the camera it should be the best in daylight too. No way the iPhone should be better.

[Cellus13]

Well weren't the phones we've seen up to now prototypes? I assumed that what the problem was since Nokia has been handing out test units.

[keizka]

Worked mighty fine today when I was using it, so what's this talk about defective camera?

[chevans920]

With HTC I can see people hesitating because they don't have a history of fixing problems. They'd just come out with a new model without the problem.

At least Nokia has a solid record of servicing their user base.

Correction - they would come out with a new model with ANOTHER problem :)

[VagrantWade]

Hey guys. Check out this sweet video that shows the Optical Image Stabilization on the 8X/iPhone5 and GS3;

[Winning Guy]

Of course it's not a bad camera at all and I would love to have that phone, but with the pureview name and all the hype regarding the camera it should be the best in daylight too. No way the iPhone should be better.

It's the phone I'm getting, so I want it to beat other cameras in every scenario too.

I just don't agree that it's "defective" as it is.

[1jaxstate1]

Never have I heard people so giddy about receiving known bad software. At least a fix is coming. Hope it doesn't take as long as it has taken them to fix the Lumia 900 low level light problems.

Riiiiiiiiiight.

The company that is launching with a known-defective camera and promising a fix at a future date is more trustworthy than the company launching with a phone that's been confirmed flawless by reviewers.

Goodness me. My ears are blushing from the gall of it! :D

[Winning Guy]

Worked mighty fine today when I was using it, so what's this talk about defective camera?

Watch out for random lasers that might vaporize the subjects of your pictures.

I heard it only happens .01% of the time though, so you should be pretty safe.

But just in case, don't let other people use your camera to take pictures of YOU.