- 11-06-2012, 01:58 AM #51
I'm reading this thread and keep thinking I've somehow got onto an Iphone forum slating the Windows 8 Phone devices, then reality hits!
Look stop throwing your toys out of the pram, we have 2 great Windows Phone devices, the Nokia and the 8X. They attract a slightly different audience, I can currently only comment on the 8X as I do not have a 920 to hand.
What I will say though is the sound quality on the 8X is superb, this isn't to do with beats which everyone knows is just a equalising setting emphasising bass, it's the additional amp and head phone voltage they have applied to the headphone jack and another additional amp on the internal speaker. Listening side by side to my Iphone 5 and Note 2 there is no comparison. Even my friend who I handed a 8X to test (he's an apple fan boy with a Iphone 5) loves the 8X and couldn't believe how good the sound quality was!
This time round HTC has delivered a decent phone with a great screen, excellent sound quality and a tried and tested camera. Rather than bashing them HTC need support for actually bothering to design a phone from scratch for Windows Phone 8, they as well as Nokia are in trouble and have gone back to basics.
As for the support Nokia's track record is as poor, I have seen 1000's of devices from them and their quality control is terrible (hence why they are in such a bad state now). They rested on their laurels and name, just as Blackberry have done and are now paying the price.
As a photographer I will only use a camera on a phone as a last resort for a quick snap. There is no camera phone with the limited sensors, lenses etc that would even begin to touch a decent quality compact let alone a DSLR/Mirrorless. As soon as you want to print larger prints, crop in etc it becomes mush. Also they also are all heavily processed and cannot do RAW therefore are useless to photographers.
So what we are talking about with the camera/picture quality are just really different degree's of acceptable for pictures posted on facebook and photo sharing websites. Don't rely on phones such as the Nokia to enable you print off great photo's especially if enlarged, 4x6 or maybe 5x7 will be okay. As I said I use them for quick snaps where the quality isn't that important rather than the content of the shot. I carry my RX100 which is very small yet infenetily better quality than any camera on a phone if I want to take shots.
Personally rather than reading threads like this that just slag of competitors offerings, enjoy the phone you decide to get, all of them have pro's and con's, research before you buy and then enjoy.
Last edited by justinl111; 11-06-2012 at 03:18 AM.
11-06-2012, 02:54 AM #52
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I know that no phone camera is going to be as good as the dedicated one, but I can't lug around a full size camera all the time. I know many do, but not me. So, if I have to comprimise and use a phone camera, I want it to fill the bill. It needs a fast lens and have good stabilization. Even if the 920's pictures were only average, it would still be doing the job it was designed for really well, because it delivers on low light and stability. But the pics it turns out, while cool and processed, are actually very nice. Add to this the news that the color bias issue is being addressed and for me it's a clear win. I know that a camera phone is a comprimise from a DSLR, but if I can get good results in low light and bright, it doesn't feel like a comprimise, it just feels convenient.
- 11-06-2012, 06:03 AM #54
Well, if you are not a fan of Nokia is fine. But bashing them about their track record makes you look stupid. It is the biggest lie I have ever heard. They are the only one who care about WP OS and even other customers. Only they are bringing Bluetooth file transfer and other features with WP7.8 to old devices. Can you expect that from HTC.
11-06-2012, 06:50 AM #55
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So I buy a iPhone 4 and I can't make a call because according to apple I'm holding it wrong. The fix buy a case. The home button stops working, the fix well apple never admitted this was a problem so no fix. Then apple updates me to the worst maps ever, and takes away google maps something I use for work every day. The fix, sorry we will fix that some day try someone else's map app. But Every one loves apple iphone.
Nokia launches a phone at a great price with a great camera, announce an update that will make the camera even better and it's the end of Nokia.
I'll take my 920 in black please.
- 11-06-2012, 06:59 AM #57
Not being negative. Just posing the question. If audiophiles will tell you that beats audio is garbage, then I'm sure photo gurus will tell you ois is garbage.Goodbye Dooley! You will NOT be missed!:@
Bring back the WeeeeeBeeeeaaarrrr
- 11-06-2012, 07:47 AM #58
Sorry if you actually read what I said both companies don't have brilliant track records, we need to support both devices and the Windows Phone system as a whole without bashing competing phones on the system!
Pureview 808 is a concept camera phone with a 40mp sensor using multisampling and pixel binning, ie it cheats, as a proper useable camera sorry it doesn't hold up against any decent camera, just look at the sensor size and the lens quality!
As for calling me stupid, sorry all I have done is point out that all devices have flaws, a phone is not a camera and what evewr phone you have it won't be able to produce anything comparable to a proper camera's picture quality, if you understand photography you will understand my statement. Please point out where I have bashed anything! I want both companies to succeed it is imperative for the platform for them to do well. Bashing the phones like what you hjave just done using the 8x camera example as being terrible is just pointless!
- 11-06-2012, 08:00 AM #60
Anyways attacking Nokia and its innovations in a pseudo way is also pretty visible, however you pretend.
- 11-06-2012, 08:01 AM #61
As I have said I have used numerous Nokia devices last one being the Lumia 800, and will be getting a 920 when they are released to the UK market without exclusivity, I have not at any point said the 8X is better than the 920.
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