[TexasLabRat]

All the sites that list unlocked Lumia 920 from OEM have changed the frequency also. I don't know if those data from these sellers are mapped from the global website or they just changed it as the same time. The only left is Roger, but I went to Nokia CA and they did not list any GSM or WCDMA beside the LTE. I hope someone can clarify this because we don't want to buy these if we cannot use these properly despite that is a beautiful device.

P/s: Pulled up the history of Nokia Global webpage, look like they cut off a lot of LTE frequencies. Don't know why they did that.

That doesn't surprise me, to be honest. The unlocked versions are almost certainly the european spec phones, which were not tested by the FCC with AWS (1700/2100) and they have a separate FCC ID from the north-american model. The north-american model is FCC ID "PYAA" and was tested on AWS and thus it is enabled on the Rogers phones and the Dev Kit phones.

[spincel]

Thanks for the feedback. Just to confirm, you're saying that with the refarm, we might get 3G in some places, but 2G otherwise and LTE probably by end of 2013?

I called the AT&T sales line and they told me they could unlock it at the store or call a 1800 number to unlock it.

A SlickDeals thread about this said you can pre-order the device with plan. Then contact AT&T to cancel the plan. After receiving your device, contact them again for unlocked code. I don't see anything wrong with it because you actually pay the price for the device and you don't support to stay with them.

About the different version, we really not know for sure which one is pentaband. Some people had device early, but those device might not really a production device after all, like dev phone. On the other hand, Roger not even has any device in-stock or show any page for customers to order, so it just likes AT&T, hold off for some reason. Since when Lumia was announced, those specs have changed a lot. As far as I can tell, I am sure that these devices are capable of pentaband, but like some Symbian model, Nokia can have firmware that disable the band it does need.

[squire777]

Well it's only a matter of days now before posters here get their hands on AT&T 920s and we will find out then what the situation is with AWS frequencies.

Hoping for the best!

[spincel]

Well it's only a matter of days now before posters here get their hands on AT&T 920s and we will find out then what the situation is with AWS frequencies.

Hoping for the best!

Call the website that some posted about the cheap Lumia 920 pre-order price (Welectronics). They said they don't know for sure if the device is gonna support T-Mobile or what version of the 920. However, they are really sure that the device will hit their store on Friday. So my guess is to wait until Friday to confirm :(.

[chuey101]

another proud member of the dev phone on tmo group.

interesting tidbit, if you go to extras+info this is how the phone is described

RM-820_nam_canada_246

I think the rogers phone and dev phones are one and the same!

[tai4de2]

Rogers phone is RM-820_nam_canada_200.

[TexasLabRat]

Rogers phone is RM-820_nam_canada_200.

Think maybe that last number (246 vs 200) is just the build/patch number?

[theeboredone]

Friday news cannot come soon enough. Almost feels like a make or break for me at this point.

[spincel]

Someone said over SlickDeals as this phone will be freaking cheap as 350 when Amazon releases it and of course, it is unlocked. Now we just need to wait until Friday as least to see any confirm about the band and versions, then if some one need to buy it cheap, they could wait until Christmas to get it :D.

[hfcas]

too good to be true :(

Someone said over SlickDeals as this phone will be freaking cheap as 350 when Amazon releases it and of course, it is unlocked. Now we just need to wait until Friday as least to see any confirm about the band and versions, then if some one need to buy it cheap, they could wait until Christmas to get it :D.

[spincel]

too good to be true :(

AT&T sell it for $449 so after a month or so, especially holiday season, it could go lower than that. It is possible. However, unless Nokia want to do that to get more people with Lumia, I don't really expect that price since we don't really for sure if that phone from Amazon will be pentaband like all of us are hoping for or not.

[dumeng]

I'm hoping 449$ price is for unlocked device, wanna use that lumia 920 in indonesia >.<

I hope one of u can confirm that at&t can unlock the device for off contract device..

[strider2]

Unless someone can confirm that AT&T version can be upgraded that enable the frequencies for T-Mobile, even if it said unlocked, you won't be able to pick up HSDPA on T-Mobile. Or you could buy it right now and wait for T-Mobile to completely refarm their network and open the LTE network. The refarm might not be done by the end of this year and the LTE will come late in 2013 so it could be a long wait.

By then it would be like buying a lumia 900 ;)
by then Lumia 930 or whatever new version would have arrived...
lol..just saying..it will be a really long wait...
this is basically AT&T arm twisting and making people sign up their network if anyone wants a lumia 920 and working full speed

[strider2]

another proud member of the dev phone on tmo group.

interesting tidbit, if you go to extras+info this is how the phone is described

RM-820_nam_canada_246

I think the rogers phone and dev phones are one and the same!

I feel happy for you and envy you at the same time..lol

[tavogus]

Any good news?

I really would like to buy the Lumia 920 and use it in T-Mobile unlimited plan.

[spincel]

Any good news?

I really would like to buy the Lumia 920 and use it in T-Mobile unlimited plan.

Buy a roger or go with the dev version which right now is freaking expensive on Ebay. Roger, on the other hand, is less expensive.

[tavogus]

Buy a roger or go with the dev version which right now is freaking expensive on Ebay. Roger, on the other hand, is less expensive.

What is the down side if I buy the roger lumia and use a t mobile chip on it.

[spincel]

What is the down side if I buy the roger lumia and use a t mobile chip on it.

Both Roger and Dev seem to have some issue with tethering, but some people manage to get it working by trigger an OTA update. Aside from that, data should work but in some case, you need to add custom APN.

[CB Gardner]

I preordered the Grey Lumia 920 from gsmnation.com. They tell me they'll have stock late this week or early next week with the 1700 band intact. I'm going to try it with my TMobile SIM. Hopefully all goes well.

[tavogus]

I preordered the Grey Lumia 920 from gsmnation.com. They tell me they'll have stock late this week or early next week with the 1700 band intact. I'm going to try it with my TMobile SIM. Hopefully all goes well.

Let us know how it went!

[james thammarath]

Here are the settings I am using.

Had to use

MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.tmobile.com/mms/wapenc
APN:wap.voicestream.com
Auth type: none
Proxy address:216.155.165.50
Proxy port:8080

Note: MMSC...For some reason it wouldn't accept the - in T-Mobile so I just removed it.

[aweinograd]

Really want a 920 running on T-Mobile. I want to make sure it will work on AWS and be compatible with future LTE plans for T-Mobile. Negri is only selling black ones too unlocked from Rogers. Is anyone able to determine the difference between the Dev Unlocked and the Rogers ones?

I am tempted to get the 8X because it will just work on AWS and cause of the better front facing camera.

[spincel]

Really want a 920 running on T-Mobile. I want to make sure it will work on AWS and be compatible with future LTE plans for T-Mobile. Negri is only selling black ones too unlocked from Rogers. Is anyone able to determine the difference between the Dev Unlocked and the Rogers ones?

I am tempted to get the 8X because it will just work on AWS and cause of the better front facing camera.

Not so many different. In fact they are the same. The only different is that dev phone is not branded like Rogers so you don't have Rogers start-up screen and it has some dev capability inside.

If you want to get the 8X, get the one from T-Mobile because other variants will not have AWS band to work with TMO.

[aweinograd]

Not so many different. In fact they are the same. The only different is that dev phone is not branded like Rogers so you don't have Rogers start-up screen and it has some dev capability inside.

If you want to get the 8X, get the one from T-Mobile because other variants will not have AWS band to work with TMO.

Makes sense. Would like to get the dev unlocked one, but only seeing them for $900+

[oobumblebeeoo]

I think someone needs to share the firmware files so we can flash it to our locked so called 'simfree' EE devices.
Had the phone nearly two weeks now and not had any sim recognised in it.

I ordered 4 free orange Sims and none work!!
ordered 2 payandgo tmobile sims and will see how that pans out.

Pretty p!ssed about it. :mad: