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  1. ChimeraX73's Avatar
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    EDIT: This is for the UK, no idea how easy it is to unlock in other countries.

    OK, so I have spent a long time today contacting Nokia, EE, Phones4u, and Orange, and this seems like the only solution unless you get an import.

    Buy it from Phones4u as a PAYG handset on Orange or T-Mobile.

    You'll have to buy a 10 top-up at that point.

    Find out the unlock fee from the network once you have inserted and registered the SIM, for Orange it's 20, and top-up the remaining amount (so an additional 10 for Orange).

    Request an unlock code.

    Orange have just confirmed once you register the phone with the SIM it becomes their responsibility to unlock it, and that I wouldn't have any problems doing this.

    Obviously I can't confirm this until Friday at the earliest (provided any of the stores near me have stock), but bearing in mind it's confirmed that you can buy it PAYG on Orange or T-Mobile from Phones4u and Nokia, and that they have to unlock it upon request, it sounds legit.

    The "SIM free" models will also be locked to EE, however you're paying the same price for the handset as PAYG with the 10 top-up, an you'd still have to pay to have it unlocked, so would work out 10 more. PAYG seems like the best option.
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    Interesting. When i went into Phones4u today and was asking about the 920, i said i wanted Sim free to continue using my existing O2 SIM, and they didnt tell me i couldn't.

    To be honest, they didnt seem to know much at all.
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    Both Phones4u and Nokia UK confirmed on their twitter feeds today that the sim free model would be locked to EE.

    I think it's disgraceful that their in-store advertising states a sim free model that's locked!

    Unless they are wrong and it's a genuine unlocked sim free model, but from two PR sources it seems odd.
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    Sounds like a plan. Let us know how you get on.

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    Here's the reply I recently got from EE

    https://www.evernote.com/shard/s1/sh...989dbf3da50ff4


    18:41
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    Hi Alan,
    this device is exclusive to the EE family.
    It will be available on the 9th of November and you can pre-order it on our site:
    4G Mobile Phones | Superfast 4GEE Plans | EE
    And yes, if you buy a handset from us, we will be able to unlock it for you. Depending on which network you choose, a fee may apply.
    Many thanks,
    Alex
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    Could we also import one from Germany or another EU country? If they sell them sim free there , they may well be unlock. Also may it work out cheaper overall?
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    Idiots4U I come then!
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    OK the plan wasn't so great, you'd need to stick the PAYG SIM in it, and then wait 3 months before they will allow you to unlock it.

    That would obviously put us into January when it should be available from other carriers and as a true sim free unlocked device.

    So here's hoping Expansys, Clove, or Handtec will be able to get some soon!

    f'king shambles.
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    The more I look at this the more I think perhaps I should just pay for the EE contract and be done with it. Total cost of EE 1GB & unlimited calls + text on 12 month contract is 661.

    Lumia 920 PAYG = 470 + 10 top up x 12 = 590
    Thats a saving of 71 or nearly 6 a month

    T-Mobile will also sell the Lumia 920 but on their full monty 36 plan on 24 months + 49 for the phone = 913
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    The more I look at this the more I think perhaps I should just pay for the EE contract and be done with it. Total cost of EE 1GB & unlimited calls + text on 12 month contract is 661.

    Lumia 920 PAYG = 470 + 10 top up x 12 = 590
    Thats a saving of 71 or nearly 6 a month

    T-Mobile will also sell the Lumia 920 but on their full monty 36 plan on 24 months + 49 for the phone = 913
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    The more I look at it the more im starting to consider the 8x, ativ s or the nexus 4. Ideally I would love a Cyan lumia 920 :(
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    I just want to purchase a lumia 920 in Cyan and use it on Vodafone uk. I can't really leave Vodafone as I have a small business with 10 phones on voda business. Surely there must be a way? My birthday is on the 8th Nov and I decided months ago I was going to treat myself to one. maybe I will go for white, but really I want a matte one but not black, and the grey is just as elusive as cyan!
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    Shambles of a launch from Nokia UK... After harping on for so long in it's adverts about the range of colours for the 920 - offering customers a choice not offered by iPhone. We get this crappy launch with next to no colour choice... and each colour is tied to confusingly different exclusive networks, and different sellers. Rather naughtily advertised as 'sim-free' by Phone4u, when they are clearly not unlocked, and only work on EE (Orange/T-Mobile). Even Nokia confirmed that there are no sim-free 920's planned for the UK when I spoke to them.

    Heck, all I wanted was an unlocked red 920, of which there is now absolutely no chance of until after Xmas, and it seems little chance after that - as Nokia say they may very well extend the exclusive period.

    I'm afraid that buying an alternative WP8 phone to Nokia's range, is looking more and more likely for me... heck I was such an advocate for the phone, telling everybody about how good it was going to be, only to discover a reduced range of colours, and a load of exclusive tie-ins on the phone when Nokia UK finally launched it. I'm so angry, the freedom to choose was such a big part of Nokia's pre-marketing of the phone, and they have just demonstrated the opposite.
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    I wanted grey, not available anywhere. Poor show Nokia
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    @all: Buy it from Germany. Amazon.de ships to GB to (I think)...
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    Phone-master have all colours 490 just not sure if the site is legit? Anyone heard of them? I have emailed them to see what they say and see how professional respone is.
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    What is the warranty like from buying abroad? I guess it will be a real hassle getting it swapped if something goes wrong.

    I guess this could work for me I am on T Mobile so I could use the phone and then get it unlocked or do i have to use the PYG SIM for 3 months?
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    You could use your own t mobile sim straight away.

    It says 3 months of the sim bein active before they will unlock it? Dunno if you would have to put payg sim in once and a while and use it so its classed as active.
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    Quote Originally Posted by max__b View Post
    Shambles of a launch from Nokia UK... After harping on for so long in it's adverts about the range of colours for the 920 - offering customers a choice not offered by iPhone. We get this crappy launch with next to no colour choice... and each colour is tied to confusingly different exclusive networks, and different sellers. Rather naughtily advertised as 'sim-free' by Phone4u, when they are clearly not unlocked, and only work on EE (Orange/T-Mobile). Even Nokia confirmed that there are no sim-free 920's planned for the UK when I spoke to them.

    Heck, all I wanted was an unlocked red 920, of which there is now absolutely no chance of until after Xmas, and it seems little chance after that - as Nokia say they may very well extend the exclusive period.

    I'm afraid that buying an alternative WP8 phone to Nokia's range, is looking more and more likely for me... heck I was such an advocate for the phone, telling everybody about how good it was going to be, only to discover a reduced range of colours, and a load of exclusive tie-ins on the phone when Nokia UK finally launched it. I'm so angry, the freedom to choose was such a big part of Nokia's pre-marketing of the phone, and they have just demonstrated the opposite.
    I agree with your comments, I wanted 920 black sim free, so am going to HTC windows phone 8x, my old Desire is still working, so will try HTC again. Phones 4u /networks are
    Useless, I buy online sim free, from Germany never had any problems,
    Buy 920 from EU a risk,
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    I called 4 branches of Phones4U today, and they all stated that 100% the Lumia 920 Sim Free model would be totally unlocked and work with any network... I hope that is the case, as I have been so excited about the Lumia 920 since it was announced, only to find out that I probably won't be able to buy one because my company pays for my sim card and I am stuck with Vodafone!
    Anyway, launch day at Phones4U is either Thursday or Friday (depending on the store) and we will find out then. Alternatively Samsung Ativ S here I come...
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulm187 View Post
    The more I look at this the more I think perhaps I should just pay for the EE contract and be done with it. Total cost of EE 1GB & unlimited calls + text on 12 month contract is 661.

    Lumia 920 PAYG = 470 + 10 top up x 12 = 590
    Thats a saving of 71 or nearly 6 a month

    T-Mobile will also sell the Lumia 920 but on their full monty 36 plan on 24 months + 49 for the phone = 913
    Tmobile are doing me a Lumia 920 at 32 a month + 29.99 for the phone = 797.99
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    If they have the same terms as Orange they will only unlock your phone after 3 months of having the phone on pay as you go. Then there is a 20ish fee on top. It is clear as mud on their website.

    http://help.orange.co.uk/orangeuk/su...ersonal/474187
    Last edited by churchwa; 11-06-2012 at 03:11 PM.
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    EE Handsets I can confirm are running a different firmware with a different simlock file.

    RM821_EE_UK

    059R1W4 - Black
    059R1W7 - Red
    059R1W5 - White
    059R1W6 - Yellow

    Firmware Version: 1232.2110.1244.3011
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    Feel exactly the same way. I've had so many Nokia phones over the past 15 years, it's a shame Nokia makes it so hard for loyal customers (or anyone else) to buy their phones. I spent roughly 6 hours speaking to all sorts at EE, Orange, Phones4U etc...trying my luck getting an unlock code, to no avail. And yes, even to this date, if I go to my local shop in Islington, Phones4U staff still believe it's fully unlocked...shame shame shame...
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    Quote Originally Posted by churchwa View Post
    If they have the same terms as Orange they will only unlock your phone after 3 months of having the phone on pay as you go. Then there is a 20ish fee on top. It is clear as mud on their website.

    handset unlocking | help & support | Orange UK
    I was about to say exactly the same thing :)
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