- 11-10-2012, 03:23 PM #101Rogers Nokia Lumia 920
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11-10-2012, 05:46 PM #102
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- 11-10-2012, 10:02 PM #107
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- 11-10-2012, 10:53 PM #109
I don't understand people saying the pictures in daylight look good.. they look terrible to me! Colors and white balance may be accurate and that's great, but the lack of detail is absolutely ridiculous. My old iphone 4 can probably take pictures with more details than the lumia.
If it was something I could only notice viewing pictures at 100% it probably wouldn't bother me, but even the resized pictures at 800px look bad and I can see the pixelation.
This picture someone posted earlier in the thread is a great example:
Look at the flowers on the right at 100% and the noise reduction is so strong it almost looks like a cartoon filter was applied to the image.
To those saying the video and low light performance make up for the poor performance during daytime, I'm sorry but it just doesn't work like that for me. Nokia hyped the camera and everyone was expecting great results.. I don't want an okay camera, I want the best in the market and right now it's probably not even in the top 5.
Don't get me wrong.. I think this phone is fantastic and I can't wait to get rid of my 4S and get a cyan one, but the camera is a big deal for me! I just don't get everyone sugarcoating the issue.. if apple released a new phone that took pictures like this everyone would be saying how awful they look.
Anyway it will take some time for nokia to launch this phone in my country and I'm hoping by the time they do this problem will be in the past!
- 11-10-2012, 11:17 PM #110
I don't think the aperture is the case. The difference between f/2.0 and f/2.4 is big in terms of how much light you'll get, but at this sensor size (i'm assuming the lumia 920 is probably 1/3", same as iPhone and common compact cameras) the depth of field is great and would not justify the pictures we're getting.
In my opinion this is an issue with the noise reduction algorithm they're using. The pictures do not look soft (as in blurred), they just lack detail.
11-10-2012, 11:24 PM #111
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These are all quick snaps taken with default settings. The idea was to see how the camera does in standard, everyday use. Snapped these as soon as the phone came out of my pocket.
My brother with his new Lumia 920
11-11-2012, 02:28 AM #114
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Bought the phone today and here are a few shots I took using my wife's red 920 of the Chinese Lantern Festival in Dallas.
11-11-2012, 02:49 AM #116
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By "camera package" I mean still photography in various conditions, video recording, sound recording, zooming, camera UI.. etc.
If you are just looking at the daytime image quality, then yes... I would say the 920 is outside of the top 5, but if you are looking at the "package" .. I would say its easily in the top 3.
If you want absolutely the best camera, you are looking at wrong Nokia. And.. I am just curious, which phones are in your top 5 ?
Something I've learned when shooting portraits with flash is that the skin tones tend to be on the "cool" side, and to bring back some "life" into them you have to play with the color balance on a editor (either on the phone or on a PC) and add a bit more red and reduce the blue.. it helps a lot in same cases.
- 11-11-2012, 03:32 AM #117
The nighttime/low light shots are the best I've seen on a phone camera. But the daytime shots are seriously the worst I've seen from any high end phone currently on the market. It's like Nokia is on both extreme ends of the scale.
I really hope they fix it because I like everything else about the phone. But as it is now, this isn't something you can "post process out" as the WPC review tried hammering into our heads (notice they didn't give us any examples of this magic being done). If its garbage out, then you can only do so much with that. This is something Nokia is gonna have to solve in-camera, if it can even be fixed. There's a lot more going on here than what just cranking up some color correction & sharpening levels can fix. Believe that.
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- 11-11-2012, 05:09 AM #119
I'm sure that once I get the 920 I'll probably find myself taking more pictures in low light, but there's only so much you can do with a small sensor...
I use my phone camera a lot (I have almost 1500 pictures in my iphone) and it pretty much replaced my point and shoot camera. Right now it's either the phone or my 60d, which is not exactly portable. That said, no matter how good the "package" is, if daylight pictures are bad then I couldn't care less about how great the audio recording is or whatever (again, this is my personal opinion).
About the top 5, I can only tell you from experience. I have an iphone 4s and my brother has a SIII and both phones take great pictures. The iphone 5 is supposedly better than the 4s in low light, so also really good. The flagship phones from HTC and Sony (One X.. xperia something?) are probably better than the 920 as well.
Sure, the 808 beats them all, but it's a niche product.
If I had iPhone 5/galaxy s3 performance in daylight and lumia 920 in low light I'd be more than happy.
11-11-2012, 07:25 AM #120
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a couple of close up pics that when viewed at 100%, I can't really complain. 8mp on such a tiny sensor wil not take DSLR class photos.
Here is a picture of my iphone and I think it shows two things. DOF (depth of field...center of image is sharper than the outside of the image which is outside of the focal plane) and some decent detail (at 100% you can see individual pixels).
Just a close up of a mailing insert and my sons matchbox car:
- 11-11-2012, 07:29 AM #121
Here are some photos I took over the past two days with my 920.
Overall I am happy with the photo quality I am seeing. Night time photos are awesome, and day-time are O.K.
One thing I will say is that taking photos with the Lumia is a pure joy. I seem to be taking photos of EVERYTHING, just because of how fun and easy it is with this phone.
These were taken throughout the Chicago, day and night.
Looks like I will have to post a couple responses to get everything I want up.
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