- 04-18-2013, 02:19 PM #1
Any such phone for which a carrier has declared EOL, why cant Nokia update its firmware and continue to provide updates in future? My understanding is it can be de-branded if a carrier has stopped showing interest, they have declared its EOL and they have stopped selling a new handset !! Any thoughts?
- 04-18-2013, 02:27 PM #2
As much as Nokia, Microsoft, and T-Mobile has me furious at the 810, the firmware update is all on T-Mobile...they simply aren't pushing it and instead are focused on the 521. Tomorrow I get my 4th 810, then they said I could switch phones...might have to leave the platform until Microsoft takes the carriers out of the software update scenario.
04-18-2013, 02:29 PM #3
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Screw T-Mobile, they've pissed me off with this move. There's no alternative mid-range Nokia at the moment (Lumia 521 doesn't count with no flash and half the ram, plus whatever else it's missing like nfc I think). That Nokia Catwalk rumor better be true, it better come to T-Mobile, and it better be at the very least have what the 810 did. So long 810 accessories... not that there were too many to begin with. Grrr.
Okay. Is there evidence for a phone getting further updates after a carrier prematurely sends it to EOL? I mean really, it came out Nov 14th, what a ridiculously short 5 month tenure. If your understanding is correct, and it can be debranded and have updates directly sent to it, then that's great news. The thing is, this phone is SUPPOSED to be supported for 18 months - isn't that a guarantee from Microsoft? If updates no longer come in for this phone, it'll be time to blow up Microsoft, Nokia, and T-Mobile with complaints...
04-18-2013, 09:10 PM #10
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Personally, I couldn't care less whether my 810 gets LTE. I'm fine with 3G/4G. What I want is the latest firmare like the 920 and other Lumias around the globe seem to be getting. That Storage Check feature looks like something everyone could use, and I don't want to get gypped out of it just because T-Mobile decided to EOL my phone prematurely.
- 04-19-2013, 02:10 AM #11
Yeah, I think I'm going to be tweeting them non stop. What a huge disappointment. Especially as the 810 is a solid phone. I think its had its fair share of quality control issues but I love this phone. But is it true that firmware support is entirely up to the carrier?
- 04-19-2013, 03:24 AM #12
This is annoying. I'll be paying my phone off long after it has been discontinued. This is rather disappointing. Catwalk had better be worth it! More to the point... better get that screen protector installed now if I do want it to last 2 years.
04-19-2013, 01:16 PM #13
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After buying two new 810s in December, I also am very frustrated. Unless I pay it off early, I'll keep it for another 16 months. I like WP8, especially with the Nokia exclusives, but navigation on my old E7-00 is still better. Actually most things on Symbian Belle are better.
That's why I just took delivery of a New Nokia 808 PureView.
- 04-19-2013, 02:48 PM #15
- 04-19-2013, 09:05 PM #19
Yeah, we can't. But I just get the sinking feeling that that's the direction it's headed. I mean, dumping the 810 after 5 months. What would be the incentive to support it? Especially with their golden poster child iphone now available. I cautiously hope for the best but expect the worst.
- 04-19-2013, 10:02 PM #20
- 04-19-2013, 10:52 PM #21
I would expect Nokia or Microsoft to step up and get us the update.
I don't trust T Mobile. All the phone companies are scum and they simply don't care about their customers. We're something to bleed. That's it
- 04-19-2013, 11:12 PM #23
I was almost a first week adopter. I actually thought about returning my 810 a few times too during the 2 week grace period. But it grew on me and I kept it. I'm satisfied with the phone itself. It was the first phone I bought OEM accessories for in the past few years, and I've changed phones alot too.
I still will keep my 810 after all. I've seen the quick EOL hook too, with my fav WP7 phone - Samsung Focus S. Both the 810 and Focus S are alike - solid, workmanlike, great performers. I didn't buy it for what it could do in the future but as a sign of belief in WP8 that I didn't have to fight as hard as I did with the Focus S for updates that MSFT said they would honor during the phone's life cycle. If MSFT screws us 810 owners over, that's it for me.
- 04-19-2013, 11:33 PM #24
Can MSFT bypass tmo and send us updates directly? What about the Nokia updates like storage check. Can Nokia push those directly or are they at the mercy of tmo? Yeah, if support for the 810 dries up, I am considering leaving the platform as well. It's just getting the middle child treatment and in the end, its the consumers who get shorted. Not only that, I'll be done with tmo. I've defended them and supported them and all we get is a big "I'm sorry, who are you?" No thanks.
04-19-2013, 11:48 PM #25
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I can only hope nokia/msft will keep supporting our phones.
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