- 08-25-2013, 09:41 PM #1
So the rumour I heard it will be a Snapdragon 800 SoC which will be quad core (personally dual core would be fine with me) and 1080p display no word if it going to be amoled or IPS.
I would expect an improved GPU no model has been mentioned I suspect it will be the adreno 330?
Any other internal parts or changes from my list post below?
- 08-25-2013, 10:06 PM #3
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- 08-26-2013, 08:01 AM #6
- 08-26-2013, 08:41 AM #7
I am expecting Nokia's Windows RT tablet to come with a Snapdragon 800 SoC though.
- 08-26-2013, 08:45 AM #8
08-26-2013, 09:18 AM #9
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I wasn't aware of any rumors saying that it definitely wasn't the 800.
And while the SOC technically says it supports up to 21 mpx, keep in mind that Nokia currently has a 41 mpx sensor in the 1020, which just has a Snapdragon S4. They've got magic fairy dust. So I would hope that they would put a 41 mpx sensor in there. (yes, I know all the rumors say otherwise)
I also hope that at 6" it would come with a pressure sensitive stylus.
- 08-26-2013, 10:31 AM #10
- 08-26-2013, 11:12 AM #11
I think from a cost-benefit standpoint, it would make sense for Nokia to put the 400 or 600 in the 'Bandit'. From a marketing standpoint I believe it is foolish. I don't believe specs are the end all of a successful device, but it seems to many people and sites/reviewers it is relevant. With the Note 3, the Xperia Z Ultra, LG G2, and possibly the HTC One Max coming this fall with some pretty high end specs, Nokia needs a high end device to compete. Not in performance, but in perception.
- 08-26-2013, 11:31 AM #12
^ agree with all of that. Thing is, MS/Nokia have no intention to compete on specs. Despite all these years of evidence to the contrary, people just still expect them to, presumably because they can't imagine why MS/Nokia shouldn't. The brainwashing caused by Android OEMs, who use the spec sheet as their primary marketing instrument, is certainly also to blame.
Anyway, I work for a large European carrier.
We will get WP devices with 400 Series SoCs (I hope it won't be the quad core variants, as they are very poor), but if one pops up in a WP phablet, then it won't be a 1080p device.
08-26-2013, 01:02 PM #13
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MSM8960 on Lumia 1020 only supports 21MP on paper...
This SoC is WAY more powerful, especially on GPU side.
Anyways, all of the press releases and talk in the forums was when S800 was released that it supported 55MP. S800 isn't exactly new as it's inside countless of devices already.
New quad-core Snapdragon supports 55-megapixel images, Ultra HD | Ars Technica
Qualcomm Launches Flagship Snapdragon 800 Processor
Snapdragon (system on chip) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Lets remember once again that you will no doubt see phablets between bandit and Lumia 625. Device releases wont just suddenly stop after bandit, especially when we are talking about Nokia.
- 08-26-2013, 02:47 PM #14
I can count the devices using an 800 series SoC using just my own fingers and no more than two hands, so I wouldn't say countless. ;-)
Anyway, the question has nothing to do with how new a SoC is. The question is how MS can support newer hardware without introducing too much fragmentation.
Basically, MS will take a large chunk of the available SoCs and cross them off the list of supported hardware. Supporting some individual SKUs that are part of the 400 series is straight forward, as they are basically the same thing we have in current WP handsets, just rebranded and sold under a different name (this doesn't add to fragmentation). Supporting SoCs from the 600 and 800 series will add to fragmentation, but the question remains how many of them WP will support and how much fragmentation that will add to the ecosystem.
- 08-26-2013, 04:24 PM #15
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- 09-02-2013, 10:59 PM #18
From a purely technical perspective, it would be best for WP to standardize on the Snapdragon 800 and 400 series, while omitting support for the 600 series. That introduces the lowest amount of fragmentation and benefits consumers by making the difference between high- and mid range WP devices more meaningful than it is now.
So, I'm hoping my info on the bandit is wrong and the rumors about the 800 are right, and that the 600 series is skipped in the interest of keeping fragmentation low.
09-07-2013, 06:19 PM #20
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Anandtech's mini-review of the G2 claims that battery life with the 800 is in another league over the 600 - essentially the 600 was a fast chip without any shrinks/support and the 800 really juices the new low-power HPM process from TSMC. I'd love to see Nokia/Microsoft skip over 600 support entirely and head straight to 800 if that's the case. We WP8 fans could have our cake and eat it - great power without the dip in battery life suffered by the Android early adopters.
It wouldn't be a post on the forum these days without a little bashing, so I'll also say that since it's taken Microsoft a year to add support for new chips, I'd like to see the 800s if only so we're not this far behind again in another year when they remember technology advances and try and catch up.
- 10-22-2013, 05:48 PM #21
With today's official release, it's 100% certain that the 1520 will use the Snapdragon 800 SoC. As it turns out, the device I had information on was the 1320, which uses the traditional Snapdragon S4. Next time I won't assume that Nokia would only release one phablet at a time. ;-)
Anyway, I'm happy with this. It looks like WP will skip the Snapdragon 600 just as it did the S3, thereby keeping fragmentation low. That's great!
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