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  1. sym1a1a's Avatar
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    I ran into a problem this morning when i purchased a song off of Nokia music service, below is the entire chat transcript i had with Nokia Care when I questioned the charge



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    Robbie: Hi, my name is Robbie. Thank you for contacting Nokia Care Chat. How may I help you?
    Robbie (14:25:16)

    Hello.
    Robbie (14:25:21)

    How are you today?
    steve1a1a@ (14:25:51)

    hi, i purchased a song off of nokia music this morning, i was billed for the song but then i was billed $1.56 as well by OVI.com what is this charge???
    Robbie (14:26:39)

    Can you please elaborate more your concern for me to address you properly?
    Robbie (14:26:41)

    Thank you.
    steve1a1a@ (14:30:21)

    This morning, using nokia music i purchased a song on my phone, i was billed $1.26 for the song, immediately after that purchase i was billed an additional $1.56 the email notification i received said it was from OVI.COM, when i click on that link to find out who billed it takes me to a page from here maps, why was i charge the $1.56 and what was it for???
    Robbie (14:31:06)

    I am sorry to hear that. Let me see what I can do to assist you with your concern. Before we proceed, may I know your full name please?
    steve1a1a@ (14:31:22)

    Steven
    Robbie (14:31:31)

    Thank you for the information.
    Robbie (14:32:09)

    One moment please while I check on your concern.
    Robbie (14:36:24)

    Thank you for waiting.
    Robbie (14:36:28)

    Sorry for the delay.
    Robbie (14:36:44)

    Can you please provide me your Nokia Account?
    steve1a1a@(14:36:57)

    steve1a1a@
    Robbie (14:37:34)

    Thank you for the information.
    Robbie (14:42:38)

    Thank you for patiently waiting.
    Robbie (14:42:41)

    Sorry for the delay.
    Robbie (14:43:51)

    Are you still there?
    steve1a1a@ (14:43:56)

    yes
    Robbie (14:43:59)

    Good to hear that.
    Robbie (14:46:16)

    Upon consulting from our senior technicians, the additional $1.56 that was charged to you will be return to you.
    steve1a1a@ (14:47:30)

    fine when? and why was i charged, what is this, and IF i decide to use your services again will this occur agian????
    Robbie (14:48:05)

    It will not happen again.
    Robbie (14:48:17)

    It is normal that you will be charge by using our services.
    Robbie (14:48:31)

    Please try to wait for 2-4 business days and it will be return back to you.
    steve1a1a@ (14:48:39)

    WHY did it happen in the first place!!!!
    Robbie (14:50:10)

    I understand your concern and what you are feeling right now.
    steve1a1a@ (14:50:12)

    explain that what do you mean its normal to be charged additional money beyond what i was buying???
    Robbie (14:50:16)

    I do apologize for the inconvenience.
    steve1a1a@ (14:55:32)

    hello? do you have an answer for me???
    Robbie (14:57:13)

    Yes. I am still here.
    Robbie (14:58:15)

    Upon checking and consulting for more information from our senior technicians, it was a test for your credit card if it is working. Once you will subscribe to our services it is normal that you will be charge for additional fee.
    Robbie (14:58:24)

    You do not need to worry it will be returned to you.
    steve1a1a@ (15:01:31)

    a $1.56 is a test? i wasnt subscribing to any service, typically when a test is run on a credit card its for a penny ($.01) you charged $1.56 as a test? would it have been returned if i hadnt questioned it???
    Robbie (15:01:51)

    Bear with me please.
    Robbie (15:03:46)

    No worries. It will be return to you after 2-4 business days. If there is no refund has been done please do not hesitate to chat us back again.
    steve1a1a@ (15:04:42)

    I will be watching my credit card for the money to be returned, this sounds more like a scam to steal money than any test, i expected much better from NOKIA


    has anyone else had this problem??
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    Wow. They gave you and answer and you were still a ****. The guy didn't charge your card, Nokia did. And if its returned then stop being a baby
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    Man !!! I read the whole chat. You just ****ed the customer care. They had no answers. I feel pity for the the guy.but u were rite though.
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    Have you tried Spotify for music streaming?
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    Howz spotify? Better than nokia music? If yes then why?
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    hmmm I've reread my responses, i believe i was quite reasonable, I was patient and trying to get a straight answer, please explain from your point of view how i could have handled this better, i didn't curse or accuse till the very end when i couldn't get an explanation as to why this charge was made in the first place, how would you have handled it better? you buy a product, you pay for the product, then get charged for nothing, and when you ask what you were charged for all your told is you'll get your money back? i had to push to get any explanation at all, and as far as I'm concerned it was a weak explanation at that. no it wasn't a great deal of money... but... it was MY money... how would you take it when you get a email confirmation of a charge and when you click the link all it does is take you to a map of the United States... I wasn't trying to be a jerk to the chat guy.. and if i came across that way then maybe i need to reexamine my approach, but that dosent change the fact that i was wrongfully charged and when questioned all i got in response was "it will be returned to you" no explanation
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    honestly i wasn't trying to make the chat guy feel bad.. that wasn't my intention... i wanted an explanation... i wasn't getting any answers..
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    Quote Originally Posted by sym1a1a View Post
    honestly i wasn't trying to make the chat guy feel bad.. that wasn't my intention... i wanted an explanation... i wasn't getting any answers..
    It's called common decency. The dude you just yelled at gave you the best answer he was able to. And you still berated him like a child.
    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke

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    I don't see where i berated him at all, its not like i was using all caps (screaming at him) do you feel the questions i asked were unreasonable, its alway hard to know the tone of a person when in a written format, i only ask because i wasn't angry, just very frustrated, and it seems that everyone thinks i was trying to insult the guy or something and that just wasn't the case, i wanted to know why? how? and who is OVI.COM i had never heard of them, and when i clicked on the link it brought up here maps..
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    Ovi is nokia's old web service. Look it up.
    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke

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    I would have been upset too. 1.56 as a (test) is odd. I've been reading over every piece of info and I can find any test they run. I personally get daily updates on my cards and accounts and have never been charged this test fee that I can find

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    Since Nokia is not a US-based company, could the difference in price come from that? I can see where you could have a charge for the music track + a similar authorization charge for the same amount. Kind of like when you go to a resturant and you pay with your card. There is an initial charge for the meal itself but if you add a tip the adjusted amount isn't added for a few more days. I bought a Nexus 4 through Google Play and canceled the order when I could get it locally for about $180 less (Craigslist). I had a $400 authorization on my credit card for 3-5 days before it was refunded.

    Customer Service is charged with addressing customer inqueries and trouble-shooting issues they are presented with. Sometimes the answer they are allowed to provide you with is not the one you will be most happy with. Once more, online chat is often riddled with misunderstandings because you don't know the tone of the other person in chat. You may not have intended to berate the representative, but the perception is that you may have. There is a time and place for being firm and heavy-handed with a corporation. Doing this on the frontlines with an hourly support worker over $1.56 on your account is out of line. It cost Nokia more to answer that question for you, regardless of your satisfaction, than it would have if you remained calm and opted to escalate beyond the rep when you were not going to get more information from the representative.

    I think everyone should have to work as a CSR once in their life to appreciate what a person in that position goes through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wamsille View Post
    I think everyone should have to work as a CSR once in their life to appreciate what a person in that position goes through.
    If you never learned manners as a child, yeah I agree. In fact, doing any sort of consumer facing job would do the trick.

    I've had various amounts credited & debited for both checking accounts & credit cards multiple times. I can only think of one time that it was 1 cent.
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    I bet that if you take a look into the FAQ or a Support page that belongs to Nokia Music, you'll find the answer (without needing to set the world on fire).

    PayPal works in the same way (with a very similar charge), too. Less than two dollars that wont hurt anybody.
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    I must admit, this thread is great. From the dramatic title, to the hilarious chat transcript. I bet the op is a joy to eat out with ;)
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    i don't user Nokia Music, but I suspect that charge is like what some other companies does to varify your account (im not sure how it works), at least some other service I use does charge a random amount first then return it a couple days later "automatically" so to me you really are over reacting a bit on the chat, I mean you could just escalate instead of using caps...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wamsille View Post
    I think everyone should have to work as a CSR once in their life to appreciate what a person in that position goes through.
    I used to work CSR for a multi-national company (I'm not going to name it, but they make sound cards...). I do not wish this upon anyone. My girlfriend worked as a CSR at Sprint. When she told me she got the job, she asked what I thought. My only answer was "I'm sorry." Being a CSR is the most degrading work I've every done (and I worked at a fast food joint just before it). Then again, it's taught me to be polite with every single rep I talk to on the phone, unless something really goes wrong, but then I immediately ask to speak with a supervisor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amritash Pathania View Post
    Howz spotify? Better than nokia music? If yes then why?
    It's what Nokia Music copied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Spencer View Post
    It's what Nokia Music copied.
    That's not true. Nokia Music was different than Spotify when it started and still is.
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    I would understand if $1.56 was a test, but it would be nice if it told you this beforehand. I don't know why you are so worked up, for paypal i had the same procedure ( and it was definitely more than $1 i give you that),where they would charge my account and gave back the amount after a few business days.( to verify my card or something).

    The first 1/3 was fine or so, then after you just gave that guy a beating, towards the end you do sound like you were very frustrated,keeping calm might be a better move next time xD~ i believe the rep did a good job and he did inform you to the best of his knowledge. He did give you an answer and he did say it will be refunded like all test charges, the best action you could have done in my eyes was to accept what he told you and wait for a few days and check your account for that refund.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Spencer View Post
    It's what Nokia Music copied.
    This doesn't make any sense at all. Totally different programs?!?

    I actually pay for Nokia Music + now instead of Spotify. More bang for the buck for my use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bawboh86 View Post
    I used to work CSR for a multi-national company (I'm not going to name it, but they make sound cards...). I do not wish this upon anyone. My girlfriend worked as a CSR at Sprint. When she told me she got the job, she asked what I thought. My only answer was "I'm sorry." Being a CSR is the most degrading work I've every done (and I worked at a fast food joint just before it). Then again, it's taught me to be polite with every single rep I talk to on the phone, unless something really goes wrong, but then I immediately ask to speak with a supervisor.
    I actually enjoy customer service work and I feel it is a shame that I don't get to do it more often. I am a natural trouble-shooter and enjoy looking into situations and coming to a resolution. I take pride in my work and try my best to make a customer happy. In business I've learned that this is not always possibly and you will always end up with someone feeling under appreciated. That's just the nature of things and the sooner you realize that and apply a similar approach to how you work within certain situations life gets a little easier.

    Then again, you get people who log into online chat or call up and complain about a $1.56 charge. Ha ha.

    Be polite to the person working in Customer Service. While they do not have the authority, let alone the ability, to part the Red Sea they can and will call you out on your BS and notate your account accordingly. Companies won't openly admit they have "PITA" checkboxes in their system but they are there. Whether they are used to highlight someone is difficult to work with or is just rude and abusive is up to company policy. I have been hit with the PITA flag before based on calls I have had with Verizon in the past. That was several years ago and I've mellowed out a lot since then. I used to use the tactic of screaming until I was given a bottle to shut up, but eventually you just get a new diaper and put in time out.

    There are people in this world that go to home hungry, sleep in the back of their car or live in a single family home with their extended family. They would kill for $1.56 to get their kid something to it or put gas in their tank so they can go to work, as if that would even get them 1/3 of a gallon.

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