09-25-2013, 01:00 AM #3
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But yeah jokes aside, I would never EVER buy a Dell product lol. The hardware of the Surface Pro 2 is amazing and can't be compared with any other tablet/ultrabook the performance the quality is just perfect. Yes you can get a cheaper alternative, but cheaper isn't always better and I've learned that with Technology lol
09-25-2013, 01:22 AM #4
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- 09-25-2013, 04:22 AM #5
Like someone else already mentioned, I like to stay away from DELL. They might great computers, but a couple of years ago, they were just horrible.
Some great competitors:
Sony Tap 11
Asus Transformer Book
IdeaPad Yoga 2
There's also the ASUS UX series, which also has a touch screen.
It all comes down to your needs and price point. For me, for example. The Surface Pro 2 is great, but I need 8GB and at least 128GB of storage, and it has to have a keyboard (I already have 2 tablets).
For my needs, the tablet comes out to 1540, after taxes. Which make me ask, can I find something else close to my needs for less?
Personally, the Surface Pro2 is at the bottom of the list. I just can't justify the price for my needs.
- 09-25-2013, 10:00 AM #7
- 09-25-2013, 10:04 AM #9
Back on topic:
For myself, im still sold on the Pro 2...i've been waiting almost 2 years to buy a laptop for something new and exciting, and MS's product delivers what i hoped for...and more. Of course not at a cheap cost but i've waited long enough and think its time to treat myself. I havent used a lot of touch screen laptops, only demoed a few at Best Buy. For ME, nothing else compares.
- 09-25-2013, 10:23 AM #12
The only things going for the Pro 2 are design, build and accessories IMO. The tablet itself isn't packing anything out of the ordinary so I'm not convinced. Rather than the XPS12 though I much prefer the XPS 11, 11" 2540x1440 screen, 2 x USB 3.0, digitizer, fanless Haswell, carbon fiber weave body, backlit touch keyboard. Good alternative, i think.
09-25-2013, 10:28 AM #13
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If you're coming at it from a notebook first perspective. The Yoga (and I imagine the Yoga 2) are good options. I have the Yoga 13 and it's very nice, but it's really too big to be useful as a tablet. Feeling the keys in the back really isn't a bother, it's just the size & bulk. It's tablet mode is ok for some things and too large for others, so it limits the tablet side of the experience.
I'm not sure I NEED a tablet with a full PC's prowess, but it's the inclusion of the Surface Pro pen that puts it over the top for me. I've used Wacom tablets in my day to day, and the ability to have the full PC/pen experience in my lap or with me while doing Photography makes the Pro a solid choice for me where I'd likely be recommending RT or Atom based tablets for most.
Microsoft is trying to produce an everything product for an audience that doesn't know what it wants. We want bigger and more powerful, but we want to put it in our pocket. Those two experiences aren't really compatible, but people haven't seemed to figure that out yet and are happy to ask for both in the same breath (and even get mad when a company can't supply them with their contradictory desires)...
- 09-25-2013, 04:13 PM #15
I have a 1st gen Surface Pro, I like it a lot. The poor battery life has been an issue as has the fan noise while Skyping with my family. The graphics capabilities have always seem a bit weak too.
While I am on the fence on upgrading or not, I am intrigued by this unit: SONY INTRODUCES FALL LINEUP OF VAIO® PCs | Sony
The Vaio Flip comes in 13", 14" and 15" sizes and at least one of the sizes can be upgraded to include a dedicated graphics chip. Of course, pricing will be a consideration.
Anyone have any better information?
10-03-2013, 04:55 AM #17
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You'll be in the Customer Service line with a Dell, PRAYING they don't ask for your receipt or give you grief. I suspect it'll be 3-4 days after the exchange/return policy expires. Dell has that worked out really well.
- 10-03-2013, 06:45 AM #18
The Venue 11 Pro compares well with the Surface Pro 2. Things like LTE option, replaceable battery, bigger screen, lighter, thinner, longer battery life, fanless and silent, NFC, TPM, smartcard reader, fingerprint reader balance out the Surface build, design, extra power and accessories. The Dell is a better option for enterprise and the docking station is cheaper. So there are real reasons to choose the dell if you are willing to evaluate it honestly.
10-15-2013, 06:29 PM #23
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Tap 11 gets average review. I'd buy Pro 2 over the tap 11
Sony VAIO Tap 11 review: meet Sony's answer to the Surface Pro
As is, though, the companies charge about the same for similar specs, and from what we can tell, Microsoft's tablet is of higher quality. Don't get us wrong: the Tap 11 has some good things going for it: the keyboard is comfortable; pen input works well; the tablet itself is thin and light; and the 1080p IPS display offers fantastic viewing angles. But it's clear that Sony had to compromise on build quality to achieve that attractive price point. And while we haven't yet tested the Surface Pro 2 for battery life and performance, we've spent enough time with it to know it's a more carefully made product, even if it's heavier. For now, we'd encourage you to at least wait for our Surface review to see how the two stack up. And Sony, if you're reading this, it's not too late to rewrite the Tap 11 as a more competitive product: all you need is a little price drop.
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- 10-16-2013, 09:44 AM #24
On a side note, another review of a competitive device running Haswell:
VAIO Flip 13
Full-size keyboard and trackpad that aren’t sacrificed on the altar of convertibility
Haswell delivers solid performance
Reasonable (but not exceptional) battery life
Digitizer that’s compatible with Sony’s existing VAIO pen accessories
Despite aluminum and plastic construction, the laptop is overly flexible throughout
Screen is bright and colorful, but slightly grainy
Lid lifts computer off of the surface it’s on while open, and the hard plastic standoffs make the laptop less stable on a hard table or desk
Fan spins up with very little provocation, making the Flip noisier than most competing Ultrabooks
10-16-2013, 10:28 AM #25
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I've had enough experiences with Dell (both personal and corporate) to say all negativity is over-stated. Insert company X and you will get people popping out to tell you of their bad experiences with them, just the way it is.
IMO, Dell's biggest problem are bland designs.
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