Force updating to WP7.8

There's currently a lot of doubt around whether or not Sprint will deliver the WP7.8 update for existing HTC Arrives, and the truth is, it's very possible we won't be seeing that little notification come up this year. It's not very encouraging considering we have not seen anything about the 8107 update for Sprint. That said, if you will look back to Mango, it was the same story, and yet Arrive users were--I believe--the very first to get the update without forcing it. So, there's still a chance that we could be getting WP7.8 from Sprint.

BUT if we don't, will we be forced to force WP7.8, too? Will this be possible for the new update?

According to the news I have read, Microsoft is bypassing the carriers to deliver the WP 7.8 update. So that's good for the 2nd Gen WP7 users, but I haven't seen anywhere that says for sure 1st Gen WP7 phones will get the 7.8 update.

I'm still trying to make sense of everything presented today but I doubt we will have to force the upgrade.

I hope that 7.8 includes the changes that Sprint won't pass on to its customers. The disappearing screen keyboard is an absolute pain.

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Originally Posted by mike

I hope that 7.8 includes the changes that Sprint won't pass on to its customers. The disappearing screen keyboard is an absolute pain.

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The Arrive doesn't have update 8107?

Nor does any AT&T phone, officially.

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Originally Posted by jimski

Nor does any AT&T phone, officially.

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Oh jeez, I didn't know that. Well, hopefully everyone will get Tango soon enough.

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Originally Posted by speedtouch

The Arrive doesn't have update 8107?

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No, the Arrive doesn't have it but not because it isn't available, but because Sprint has decided its customers don't need the headache of a fully functional phone.

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Originally Posted by mike

No, the Arrive doesn't have it but not because it isn't available, but because Sprint has decided its customers don't need the headache of a fully functional phone.

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Heh, good ol' Sprint, always looking out for their customers! Glad I left Sprint for T-Mobile.

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Originally Posted by mike

I hope that 7.8 includes the changes that Sprint won't pass on to its customers. The disappearing screen keyboard is an absolute pain.

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But... you have a physical keyboard...

Posted this earlier on the Sprint HTC Arrive forum -

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The difference with Windows Phone 7.8 compared to other updates is that there is no carrier intervention on this one. Here's a quote that Paul Thurrott (well-known Windows/Microsoft blogger) made in his Windows Phone 7.8 post -


"Windows Phone 7.8 will be delivered directly to all Windows Phone users, bypassing the carriers. You will be able to download and install Windows Phone 7.8 over Wi-Fi, at home or wherever else, and install this update".


According to Microsoft, Windows Phone 7.8 will be released sometime around Windows Phone 8's debut (which is expected in Oct/Nov like the past two releases). Quote from the Windows Phone team blog:


"The new Start screen is so useful and emblematic of what Windows Phone is about that we want everybody to enjoy it. So we’ll be delivering it to existing phones as a software update sometime after Window Phone 8 is released."


Source for Paul's quote: http://www.winsupersite.com/article/...preview-143476


Source for 7.8 release quote: Windows Phone Blog

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As for the disappearing keyboard, I can attest to the issue being the same there. The cursor will still lose focus from the text field randomly with the hardware keyboard extended. It happened quite often (before I forced 8017).

We can only hope (most likely to our dismay) for Sprint to release 8773 to us as a holdover, but most likely we won't see anything until Microsoft directly releases 7.8 to us... which is quite sad.

So far a few of us have tried to make a buzz on Sprint's forums, but there haven't been too many of us. Any additional help is welcome. :)

got a link to that particular thread or other Sprint forum threads you need a few more voices in? I pretty much never go ther since I really figure they aren't listening.

I thought Sprint went under like AOL. Last summer when I was back in the states the 3 malls I went in had closed all their Sprint stores.

Here's the link to Sprint's Arrive forum -

Sprint Community: Space: HTC Arrive

and their Windows forum -

Sprint Community: Space: Windows OS

I had to force update my Arrive to even get 7.5 and once they updated 7.5 to get rid of those annoying keyboard issues (the second update) i had to manually update using some tool.

Now I have a Radar 4G, and I want to flash my rom to the dynamics hybrid 7.8 RTM rom. But the stupid HSPL/Gold Card crap is keeping me away. As well, my other problems that keep me from flashing, is that the developers are too lazy to even provide a helpful tutorial, and of course every time I do try to run the flash program, it can never find my phone. Nor can WPconnect.exe from the SDK
even though I followed everything completely, and see no reason for its malfunction.

I am really tired of Microsoft, and them not releasing 7.8 until 2013. It should have been here months and months ago. But instead, they extend it. I am really looking away from Windows Phones now.

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Originally Posted by A Social Reject

But... you have a physical keyboard...

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Obviously someone who's to foolish to know what they are talking about. Its not just the keyboard you lose, you lose predictive text with the disappearing screen. Next time know what you are talking about. I always use the physical keyboard because it is superior, it just losing the predictive text that is irritating. Whenever I use the screens keyboard I wind up going to the physical keyboard, just less errors and ease of use. The idiots at Sprint are probably as clueless as you about the issue and is probably why they didn't allow the update, because they said the same thing. Ignorance doesn't help anyone.

so no luck im guessing?

"Well its been a while since this thread was brought up. And my guess is that all of you have not gotten the update yet.....

Today, January 30, 2013, was supposed to be the day for the release. Many of the other HTC devices have gotten the update. Sadly the Arrive will NOT be getting it.

Though Microsoft mentioned that the update would bypass carriers, they failed to mention how it would not bypass manufacturers. HTC gave the Arrive the shaft, and we will not be getting the update.

Today, as I was trying everything possible to get this update on my phone, I sent HTC an email asking if the update would come to our phones. They replied about 10 minutes later with confirmation that it would not come.

Sorry to dissappoint, but thats about the realest truth you can get coming straight from the source. IF for some miraculous reason the HTC 7 Pro for U.S. Cellular gets the update, then it will be easily possible to manually install the update (I did this with the Tango update, which worked fine.)

Until then, we are out of luck."



This is a comment from the sprint forum looks like were out of luck boys.....

My 7 Pro (EU) did get the update (just installed it) so maybe there is still hope for the Arrive.

On the other hand, my phone also got the keyboard fix and Tango among other things..

What are actually the differences, hardware wise, between the 7 Pro and the Arrive? I mean it looks similar and the 7 Pro also supports CDMA despite the fact that it is not used in Europe, to my knowledge.

You shouldn't force anything. It's against the law. Try asking the Arrive out for dinner, and see where things lead. If not, 7.8 just wasn't meant to be.

Did you have to force the 7.8 update? Also did you have the 7.5 update before getting the 7.8?

I have kept my Arrive up to date using the CAB method and it seems to work fine. I switched a while back to a lumia 900 and then a 920 but my son still uses the arrive for games and web browsing. I updated it last night to 7.8 and he used it all evening without issues. That being said... We no longer use it for phone calls or texting so I cannot say 100% that it will work but it is showing no signs of issues with the 7.8 update for normal use over WiFi.

I forced the update through the Cab method, while a little time consuming, everything is running fine. The only thing that I can think of that's missing is connection sharing, which HTC and/or Sprint would've had to add to the updates. The phone is running smoothly and I don't have to worry about the disappearing keyboard.

can you send me the step on doing this process? I am in need of this badly

i tried the cab method with easy wp7 uploader but no luck