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  1. tristan.rice's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winfonejunkie View Post
    The Nokia 920's music capabilities are phenomenal. Having Dobly digital quality stereo sound and a full graphic customizable equalizer make this phone head and shoulders about the 8X IMHO
    For small headphones and IEMs I'm sure they both provide a comparable experience. For larger Monitors though, the AMP should give the 8X a pretty solid advantage of the 920.

    I'd like to see Anandtech do a good audio quality comparison between the two.
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    i wonder if you can open it up and switch out opamps. should be able to with a bit of soldering skill

    and on a side note, i don't like the idea that it employs an EQ too. i want a (close to) neutral signal. let me do my own EQ depending on my headphones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runam0k View Post
    Take it back. I haven't had a single reboot.



    I agree btw, the amp makes a heck of a difference. Great phone for music (erm, except for the OS!).

    people have taken theirs back and had reboots still
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicooke View Post
    people have taken theirs back and had reboots still
    No doubt, but at least HTC will take note if a bunch of their phones are being returned.

    Unless it's a complete pain in the ***, I'd take it back. There are plenty of 8Xs out there that aren't rebooting...

    I took 2 (possibly 3) Lumia 800s back with reboot problems.
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    It is a pain in the arse as I would have to send it back to Clove. If I could actually buy a Nexus 4 I would consider it though. Poor quality control, the store went down last night, skype is half of what was promised...
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    Beats is absolutely overrated ... my xperia s with walkman features has had a better/clearer sound output. It was not as loud as my new htc 8x (2.5V pre AMP) but the sound quality is not that good with beats. i would say it is normal stereo sound quality as you know it from many other devices ...
    I didn't need to use an equalizer with my xperia s and Bose MIE2 or Sony EX510LP Headphones ... now i wish i would have an equalizer ...
    if you want better sound quality you better go with klitsch/sony/bose/akg/sennheiser/beyerdynamic ... they re have even cheaper models which are better ...
    beats is much too expensive ...
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    You can get those beats headsets for under $15. They just slap a b on the side and jack the price. My wife has a pair of Sony and omg the bass and clarity r unbelievable!
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    It sounds like a few people do not know what an amp is and does? well the noise or signal coming out of the phone passes through the amp and the amp adds more power to the signal, the benefit of this is the 8x can power bigger and more powerful speakers for example I had some sony 'extra bass' earphones and on my HD7 at 20/30 on the volume the bass kept breaking up because the phone couldn't power the extra bass part of the speaker! not a problem now and It can now power seriously big headphones. AMPS are used to turn a weak signal i.e. from a CD player in a nightclub and ramp it up to power the massive BASS bins and Tweeters etc in massive speakers. The only let down is the EQ allowing you to choose how you want to hear the power :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by djSupport View Post
    It sounds like a few people do not know what an amp is and does? well the noise or signal coming out of the phone passes through the amp and the amp adds more power to the signal, the benefit of this is the 8x can power bigger and more powerful speakers for example I had some sony 'extra bass' earphones and on my HD7 at 20/30 on the volume the bass kept breaking up because the phone couldn't power the extra bass part of the speaker! not a problem now and It can now power seriously big headphones. AMPS are used to turn a weak signal i.e. from a CD player in a nightclub and ramp it up to power the massive BASS bins and Tweeters etc in massive speakers. The only let down is the EQ allowing you to choose how you want to hear the power :(

    Amplifier - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    And strictly speaking, amplifier in the 8X increases the Gain. And it means Voltage Out / Voltage In > 1. And since the amount of current through the amplifier is the same, you get a higher power, VI. However, it will come at a price - increasing gain will definitely increase noise, no matter how small it may be. Of course, the noise you get from the additional amplifier is much controlled and minimized.


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    Sounds like there is a LOT of confusion here as to what Beats audio really is. First of all, for ALL beats phones before the 8x, Beats was implemented through software only. On devices such as the HP touchpad and other beats players (laptops, etc), Beats is an actual hardware implementation. Straight off of the website:

    "We work with partners like HTC, HP and Chrysler to make sure that whether you're on your phone, computer or in your car you will get our signature Beats sound. We first start off by making sure your hardware is tailored to deliver the best possible sound quality. That includes considering things like: speaker location, adequate power supply, quality jacks, amplifier and digital to audio converter. Once we have the hardware right we then complement with Beats Audio software.

    The Beats Audio tuning process holds the highest respect for the artist - never interfering with the track. In our opinion, there's nothing better than what the artist originally made in the studio.

    Beats Audio software paired with tailored hardware ensures the best sound possible, one which meets the high standards of Dr. Dre. Without his stamp of approval, it doesn’t go out the door. Period. This is why we can deliver a listening experience that captures the essence of what was originally created in the studio."

    Before HTC partnered with Beats, one of Beats goals was for all Beats products to channel 24 bit audio instead of the traditional 16 bit. This distinction has been removed from the page. I assume that the removal is the result of now allowing software only implementations (such as with the HTC Android sets). I would be very curious to find out if the 8x actually has the audio components separated from the rest of the device. I do know from using mine that the extra amp makes a huge difference when playing music through my nicer speakers. The full audible range is much clearer than with my previous handsets, and there is a major difference when beats is turned off.

    The statement that beats is "just a bass boost" is entirely false. Beats is intended to give you as true a reproduction of the artists original recording as possible.
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    ^ wrong. Beats is a software EQ for 8X. There is an additional amplifier(not BEATS) which helps to boost the gain. Beats, most often, makes music sound more bassy than it should be. And audiophiles do not use any EQ. We want to listen the music the way they produced it to be.


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    used my over-the-ear beats headphones with songs download from the xbox music store.

    i had to change my pants cause it was that good.
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    really hating the audio so far i'm afraid, desperately need an equalizer :(
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    i but htc xl with beats, beats are useless so lets see the htc 8x audio
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    If your in the UK Go to Currys/PC World take your old phone and your new shiny 8x and go plug into some of the demo models of the Beats range and hear the difference compared to the audio out of your old phone! then you'll realise that this built in amp is one **** of a difference!
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    I think the audio quality is pretty good for what it is.

    I just did a quick a/b: lumia 800 vs. mbox2 + dedicated headphone amp vs. 8x with and without beats amp. For headphones I used my trusted K271 AKGs. I used 320 and 256bit mp3/aac files to test (e.g. Kurt Elling's "Dedicated to You" album and a few other things I'd actually listen to on the road eg. Robert Glaspers great "Black Radio" album).

    All in all the mbox2 is unsurprisingly in a different league entirely (and there is much better gear than that still). The files just have a completely different clarity and separation than on the phones. That said the 8x with the beats enabled sounds quite a bit clearer than the other options (8x w/o beats, lumia 800) although they do noticeably lift the bass and treble a bit vs. the mids.

    Let's cut to the chase: If you are at home and really want to get the most out of your music then obviously you aren't plugging those 150€+ cans into a phone. On the other hand I am quite happy with the quality for use on the road and I think that's where listening on a phone makes sense. Here I am quite happy with the 8x quality and the more "hifi" amplification helps me hear those bass lines in the train.

    Of course that's just my preferences ;-)
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    I tried some beats audio headphones (not sure which but my friend always buys top of the line), and the sound quality was amazing. Actually had to have it on 8/30 in order to not bust my eardrum. We compared the sound quality from an iPhone 5 and Droid Incredible. Hands down the 8x is much clearer and produces louder sound with great bass of the three phones. The only thing that was weird is that there was no volume control from the headphones to the 8x like there was with the other two phones.
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    I've found the audio on the 8x to be better than any iPod I've ever owned but not close to the quality of my Cowon J3. Using Shure SE425 earphones.
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    I thought it was going to be BS, however if you play some music and turn it on and off, the difference is very noticeable - in a good way
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    Quote Originally Posted by holyxiaoxin View Post
    ^ wrong. Beats is a software EQ for 8X. There is an additional amplifier(not BEATS) which helps to boost the gain. Beats, most often, makes music sound more bassy than it should be. And audiophiles do not use any EQ. We want to listen the music the way they produced it to be.


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    Sorry, what was WRONG in my post. Since you are using an iphone, I take it that you do not realize that the amplifier turns on when Beats is enabled, therefore, the amplifier IS part of the Beats implementation. That said, I never stated in my previous post that the 8x used any further hardware implementation of Beats OTHER than the added amplifier. Please read entire posts before contradicting, iSheep.

    No, the 8x implementation is not the same as in other Beats hardware implementations such as the HP touchpad or the other mentioned devices. I never said it was.
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    This is perhaps not really beats related, but I find the audio quality of the HTC 8X quite terrible. What bothers me in particular is the noise level, which is really high. My HTC Trophy wasn't perfect either in this regard, but much better. Note that I am a very picky listener who uses very sensitive headphones (Shure SE535). People who have ruined hearing and play through cheap headphones might not have a problem at all with the noise.

    I am actually thinking about switching to a different device because of this. According to www.gsmarena.com, who measure the audio quality for everything they review, the Samsung Ativ has much better audio quality. They have not reviewed the Lumia 920 yet, but other Nokia devices have not fared too well in their reviews.

    This is too bad, since I find the HTC 8X to be the best looking WP8 device yet. The Samsung Ativ is just plain boring to look at, and also too big.
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    I purchased a 920 (AT&T) for my wife, I bought an 8x (T-mobile) for myself.. We spent quite a bit of time playing' around and comparing apps, etc... as far as the audio goes, this is what we did.

    we transferred audio via NFC between the phones..

    we each have a pair of identical Bose earbuds, the right channel of the 8x went to me, the left to my wife, the right of the 920 went to my wife, the left to me.
    With both flat (beats off, and the dolby/eq off) we played the exact same song on both devices at the same time.
    With the volume low (about 5) the 920 seemed a touch louder, but both sounded the same, after increasing the volume (about 25-30) the 8x seemed a touch louder.
    we then compared the Dolby/eq to flat 8x - dolby sounded better and a little louder
    and then compared the Beats to Flat 920 - Beats sounded better and was MUCH louder, even after dropping the volume down to match, the sound was richer in the base and highs.
    and finally Beats to Dolby... the beats sounded fuller at the same volume and could achieve much better sound quality when full volume (was much louder too, like 8x volume at 16 was about as loud as the 920 at 25).

    My wife was very happy with the 920 up to this point and i was doubting my decision to get the 8x, we had compared cameras, bundled apps, storage, Battery life (the wireless charger is backordered so we dont have that yet), nfc works great both ways. After we were done playing with the audio, she said 'I want your phone' and I said 'No way'.

    Its not scientific but thats our real world comparison, hope it helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhult View Post
    This is perhaps not really beats related, but I find the audio quality of the HTC 8X quite terrible. What bothers me in particular is the noise level, which is really high. My HTC Trophy wasn't perfect either in this regard, but much better. Note that I am a very picky listener who uses very sensitive headphones (Shure SE535). People who have ruined hearing and play through cheap headphones might not have a problem at all with the noise.

    I am actually thinking about switching to a different device because of this. According to www.gsmarena.com, who measure the audio quality for everything they review, the Samsung Ativ has much better audio quality. They have not reviewed the Lumia 920 yet, but other Nokia devices have not fared too well in their reviews.

    This is too bad, since I find the HTC 8X to be the best looking WP8 device yet. The Samsung Ativ is just plain boring to look at, and also too big.
    The noise level thing is strange. With my cheap earplugs I can hear a higher noise level with the beats on. However with my AKG cans on I don't at all.
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    Is it possible for someone to produce a graphic equaliser app, or is the audio locked out from app development?
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