[nano321]

A very fair point. All the Nokia WPs are just rehashed Symbian and MeeGo phones with new internals -- the HTC phones, in contrast, are all-new designs exclusive to WP.

At least that is their own patented design that they are using with slight changes. Look at HTC and Samsung. Shamelessly copying other's design and then claiming that they have worked on that as original designs and the fanboys are more shameless who spent their days defending them.

GSMarena has reviewed the HTC 8X and here is their conclusion.They say the big upper bezel offsets the screen.

"By the looks of it, the HTC Windows Phone 8X fails to achieve what it sets out to. A more compact and a more affordable package without compromising the overall experience is what we were hoping for, but in the end we got a phone of similar size to the Ativ S and Lumia 920 with a much smaller screen."

and also,
"In fact, the HTC Windows Phone 8X will probably end up hitting way lower and competing with the Lumia 820. Nokia's mid-range device has AMOLED technology, a more compact body, a microSD card slot, LTE connectivity and easy customization through the replaceable covers. "

[Smg-Uk]

At least that is their own patented design that they are using with slight changes. Look at HTC and Samsung. Shamelessly copying other's design and then claiming that they have worked on that as original designs and the fanboys are more shameless who spent their days defending them.

GSMarena has reviewed the HTC 8X and here is their conclusion.They say the big upper bezel offsets the screen.

"By the looks of it, the HTC Windows Phone 8X fails to achieve what it sets out to. A more compact and a more affordable package without compromising the overall experience is what we were hoping for, but in the end we got a phone of similar size to the Ativ S and Lumia 920 with a much smaller screen."

and also,
"In fact, the HTC Windows Phone 8X will probably end up hitting way lower and competing with the Lumia 820. Nokia's mid-range device has AMOLED technology, a more compact body, a microSD card slot, LTE connectivity and easy customization through the replaceable covers. "

Drivel, Anyone who thinks the 8X is a copy of a Lumia device is talking nonsense they don't have the same design/shape they are not manufactured the same way and even the colours are different. Nokia fans would have everyone believe they have patents on polycarbonate & adding colour to a phone other than black/white and going by that way of thinking then you must also think that any phone made of metal and available in black/white must also be a direct copy of each other.

As for Gsmarena we are supposed to take one bad reviews word over pretty much every other review giving it 4/5 out of 5 right...

[cp2_4eva]

My gf doesn't have a problem with the 900 and I have no trouble with it either.

Simply put, if you don't like the size of a phone, buy a smaller f**king phone and save the griping for yourself. I don't care for this useless griping over which WP8 model is the best.

On the plus side, at least we can all agree that the Ativ is the ugliest and move on with our days :P

My wife had the 900 and didn't mind it. You know why? She never had to carry it in her tight a$$ jean pockets. She has a friggin' purse. lol. Men on the other hand have pants and we rarely have bags to carry these things in. Unless you are gay or metrosexual and carry a man bag or a Murse. lol. No problem with the murse, just not me.

[Winterfang]

This is my only problem with this forum. People pretend Nokia is god's gift to WP and EVERYBODY should respect and love Nokia OR ELSE WP is nothing!

lol... Fun fact, Spain is the fattest country in the world. (Yeah, that's in Europe ;) )

A voice of reason, oh boy.

[Reeves]

That significant processor was upgraded to what HTC already uses. The 8x has wireless charging, and the beats is different in the 8x. The camera is the only thing HTC didn't change. Facts is facts. Nokia finally got their processor, audio, and resolution up to HTCs standards, packing it into the N9 and that's being called innovative? The camera yes, I give them that, everything else is hogwash.

Edit= I was wrong. HTC did in fact tweak the camera. Sorry.

By this rationale, HTC is just using the same Snapdragon S4 that everyone else is using, so they are simply on par with the industry...not any sort of "HTC Standards". Same with 720P resolution. The LG Optimus had it a year ago, long before the One X was ever launched.

I'm not interested in a war between the two brands. I like them both. My first WP phone was the HTC Arrive, and it was a sturday brick that I mostly enjoyed. My wife has an EVO LTE with most of the same specs that are in the 8X. The screen is glorious, and the camera is superfast if a little underwhelming as far as noisy pictures go.

If the 8X had come to Sprint when I was on it, I very well might have stayed and grabbed it. But Sprint doesn't deserve it or any Windows Phone, frankly.

[VoltageMX]

Man I realy want to buy the 8X but now with all the reports of reebots and stuf I'm geting a little woried. Previously I had the Lumia 900 and it had the "famous" capacitive buttons isue. It took the official repair service in my country three times to repair that and even after the third time the problem was not totaly gone. And beside that the 900 started rebooting and by that I mean rebooting realy often so that the phone was realy not usable. So I sold it for 300€. I bought it for 520 so i lost some money here but I did not care because I have lost so much nerves with the 900. So because of that i realy do not trust Nokia and its "famous" build qualitiy anymore. Was considering the 920 for some time but when i remembered problems that I had with the 900 it turned me off. Beside that the 920 is expensive as **** here in Slovenia. It's 680€. The 8X is 500€. I do not want to go to android or the gayphone (iphone) :lol: so I realy don't have a lot of choiches here. The 920 is to expensive and I realy don't trust Nokia anymore. And let me ad that I will never again buy Samsung. The Omnia 7 gave me even bigger problems than the 900. So no ATIV S. So my only choice left is the 8X. And it has problmes of its own I see. Well I hope i will have the luck to get one without any problems but chances are slim. In today's capitalistic world things are made so they malfunction quick and you must buy another device. It keeps the money going around right?

[ImmortalWarrior]

My wife had the 900 and didn't mind it. You know why? She never had to carry it in her tight a$$ jean pockets. She has a friggin' purse. lol. Men on the other hand have pants and we rarely have bags to carry these things in. Unless you are gay or metrosexual and carry a man bag or a Murse. lol. No problem with the murse, just not me.

I ride a Harley and wear bootcut jeans which are snug. I can easily fit the 900 in a front pocket AND crunch my legs upward to put my feet on the forward controls with no problem so I have no idea what you are complaining about. I doubt I could do the same with a Note

[socialcarpet]

This is my only problem with this forum. People pretend Nokia is god's gift to WP and EVERYBODY should respect and love Nokia OR ELSE WP is nothing!

Before Nokia almost no one knew or cared about Windows Phone. The dull Samsung's, HTC's and Dell phones sat in the back of the store under a layer of dust.

So yeah.

[socialcarpet]

I ride a Harley and wear bootcut jeans which are snug. I can easily fit the 900 in a front pocket AND crunch my legs upward to put my feet on the forward controls with no problem so I have no idea what you are complaining about. I doubt I could do the same with a Note

You could but the Note's cheap thin crap plastic would flex and bust the screen.

[cp2_4eva]

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Before Nokia almost no one knew or cared about Windows Phone. The dull Samsung's, HTC's and Dell phones sat in the back of the store under a layer of dust.

So yeah.

So are you saying that if Windows phone fails then it all rests on the shoulders of the ALMIGHT NOKIA? Good luck with that. They aren't apple. They don't have the same business model or hardware or the tech credit. Nokia was so yesterday as the top of tech times goes. It would seem that Nokia and HTC would have a symbiotic relationship because I honestly think they need to feed off each other. Now if only HTC could lower their prices lol.

[Hypetrak]

Doesn't really matter to me. You guys have fun with that 8x phone.

[TaliZorah]

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Before Nokia almost no one knew or cared about Windows Phone. The dull Samsung's, HTC's and Dell phones sat in the back of the store under a layer of dust.

So yeah.

That's strange because I knew a few people who had a Focus, Quantum, and HD7 long before Nokia even entered the picture.

The L900 was just the first that was extrememly advertized and it was Nokia which has tons of fans all over the world. It got westerner's excited because they remembered their old Nokias. Also AT&T did advertize it well.

Has nothing to do with just Nokia being Nokia and all they had to do was make a WP device. There were LOTS of other factors.

[slicksilver]

I was very close to preordering the 8X until I read this article - HTC Windows Phone 8X battery life test concludes, results are inside - GSMArena Blog . GSMArena outrightly rejects the phone for its battery life.

[freestaterocker]

Sort of related but more for a good laugh (spamming my own thread)

They are all actually 90 year old women undergoing chemo disguised as tech bloggers. The technobuffallo review of the 920 best states my viewpoint in the matter.

[runam0k]

I was very close to preordering the 8X until I read this article - HTC Windows Phone 8X battery life test concludes, results are inside - GSMArena Blog . GSMArena outrightly rejects the phone for its battery life.

Which is odd, because mine is at least better than my Lumia 800.

I do have a charger at home and at work though, so it's plugged in a lot of the time.

[freestaterocker]

Could be. But on the flip side, the reason carriers are pushing WP because of the high cost of subsidizing iPhones (which sell well). I cannot imagine AT&T is willing to subsidize 920s and lots of freebies plus have a big ad campaign, unless Nokia is selling them for well under what Apple charges.

Well iPhone mark-up is about 350%, so Nokia has plenty of margin to play with to undercut Apple without selling at a loss.

[freestaterocker]

Don't need nav.

Don't need a camera that is marginally better in low-light but just as good as every other phone outdoors.

I am on Verizon.

<3 WP8 so far.



HTC 8X here I come!

But how will you find your way back to Rannoch without a good nav and offline traffic data?

[freestaterocker]

well. I think this depends on the people. if people are concerned about weight and love music then 8X if people like the features of the 920 then go there

I'm a music lover that feels Dolby Audio>Beats any day of the week. The 8X only has form factor and pixel density as advantages in my mind...

[cp2_4eva]

Well iPhone mark-up is about 350%, so Nokia has plenty of margin to play with to undercut Apple without selling at a loss.

Where Nokia mess up was the carrier exclusivity. They could have really made a killing on Verizon along with other carriers in the USA. I wonder what types of deals were being made to make that happen.

Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

[alexblfc]

I ordered the 8X today, arriving tomorrow morning (Amazon Prime ftw!). I just got sick and tired of waiting for the 920. I want a sim free device, that will work with any sim card i put into it. I don't want to pay ludicrous prices on contract with EE, especially considering i don't live in a place that will be getting 4G coverage any time soon. My 3G coverage is crap as it is.

Even the sim free models sold at Phones4U are locked to Orange/T-Mobile, and that's only the black model. Not good enough. Windows phone is about colour, yet people can only buy the Black/White Lumia 920 over here. I think Nokia will lose a heck of a lot of potential customers (Me included) to the 8X or Ativ S for exactly these reasons: EE exclusivity, only 2 boring colour options, ridiculously overpriced, time it's taking to get to market.

I went for the blue 8X and i can't wait. I'll do a review on my youtube channel after i've had the phone for a few days and i'll post that here incase anyone wants to see. If you have any questions about the device, PM me and i'll be more than happy to answer them.

Nokia, you ruined your chances of being a force, you sold out to AT&T and EE. You've lost my custom, and the worst thing is..... You don't seem to care.

[poddie]

Here's my question... I was pretty much sold on the 8x, but looking at them both in the ATT store and the 8x only at a Best Buy, it seems like the screen is much dimmer than the 920, and even dimmer than my Trophy. This doesn't seem possible.

I saw it at Best Buy first and compared it to my Trophy... seemed dimmer. But the accent colors were different, so I thought maybe that was why.

Then at AT&T, I compared them side-by-side (8x vs 920). Looking at their Uverse app Tile, it was clearly much dimmer on the 8x. And the blacks actually looked less black on the 8x to boot.

Has anyone else noticed this? I don't want a dim screen...

[Smg-Uk]

Here's my question... I was pretty much sold on the 8x, but looking at them both in the ATT store and the 8x only at a Best Buy, it seems like the screen is much dimmer than the 920, and even dimmer than my Trophy. This doesn't seem possible.

I saw it at Best Buy first and compared it to my Trophy... seemed dimmer. But the accent colors were different, so I thought maybe that was why.

Then at AT&T, I compared them side-by-side (8x vs 920). Looking at their Uverse app Tile, it was clearly much dimmer on the 8x. And the blacks actually looked less black on the 8x to boot.

Has anyone else noticed this? I don't want a dim screen...

Was it set to auto or low brightness ?

[IceDree]

I ordered the 8X today, arriving tomorrow morning (Amazon Prime ftw!). I just got sick and tired of waiting for the 920. I want a sim free device, that will work with any sim card i put into it. I don't want to pay ludicrous prices on contract with EE, especially considering i don't live in a place that will be getting 4G coverage any time soon. My 3G coverage is crap as it is.

Even the sim free models sold at Phones4U are locked to Orange/T-Mobile, and that's only the black model. Not good enough. Windows phone is about colour, yet people can only buy the Black/White Lumia 920 over here. I think Nokia will lose a heck of a lot of potential customers (Me included) to the 8X or Ativ S for exactly these reasons: EE exclusivity, only 2 boring colour options, ridiculously overpriced, time it's taking to get to market.

I went for the blue 8X and i can't wait. I'll do a review on my youtube channel after i've had the phone for a few days and i'll post that here incase anyone wants to see. If you have any questions about the device, PM me and i'll be more than happy to answer them.

Nokia, you ruined your chances of being a force, you sold out to AT&T and EE. You've lost my custom, and the worst thing is..... You don't seem to care.

Congratulations man,

How much Free storage of the 16GB you get out of the box ? I got almost 12GB of my Atrix's 16GB

Thanks

[IceDree]

By this rationale, HTC is just using the same Snapdragon S4 that everyone else is using, so they are simply on par with the industry...not any sort of "HTC Standards". Same with 720P resolution. The LG Optimus had it a year ago, long before the One X was ever launched.

Also the HTC ReZound had a 720p screen, I think it came out about 5 months before the One X

[IceDree]

Here's my question... I was pretty much sold on the 8x, but looking at them both in the ATT store and the 8x only at a Best Buy, it seems like the screen is much dimmer than the 920, and even dimmer than my Trophy. This doesn't seem possible.

I saw it at Best Buy first and compared it to my Trophy... seemed dimmer. But the accent colors were different, so I thought maybe that was why.

Then at AT&T, I compared them side-by-side (8x vs 920). Looking at their Uverse app Tile, it was clearly much dimmer on the 8x. And the blacks actually looked less black on the 8x to boot.

Has anyone else noticed this? I don't want a dim screen...

Before you decide, check em again, but check the brightness on the 8X first, a few months ago I played with a Motorola RAZR at a store, everyone kept complaining on how dim the screen, only to find out the brightness was set to lowest !