08-01-2013, 05:40 PM #1
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as we all read the recent 'big' news, Microsoft moves it's popular smartphone-ified office to Android smartphone and soon it's coming to Android tablets.
Did Microsoft lost one of it's main tablet (and smartphone) advantages? Is Microsoft trying to bring Apple down by not supporting Office on its devices?
I suspect that Microsoft tries its best to put Apple down, we've seen recent advertisements comparing Apple's iPad to Microsoft's Surface RT, not to mention the popular "compare to iPad" on the Windows 8 website.
I'm afraid that people will no longer see that "office" is a reason to switch to Windows 8 tablets and phones, instead the crowd will move to the popular, application healthy, Android.
Discuss what you think about that.
08-01-2013, 05:48 PM #3
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If they have Office on everything, it makes people stick to using it. If you dont want WP8 or a Windows Tab but need an Office client then you might settle for Google Docs or something like that.
Sooner or later Google Docs will catch up to Office. And I think Microsoft rather give people the option to have Office on anything and everything.
08-01-2013, 05:56 PM #4
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First off, Microsoft already published an Office app for iOS way before releasing this new android app. Secondly, the app for android or iOS doesn't have the capability to create docs or excel spreadsheets like we can. So no, WP still has an office advantage and Im going to imagine that in WP 8.1 more office features will be added especially those who have a 365 account.
- 08-01-2013, 08:46 PM #7
I think we did lose part of our advantage, but we still do have a stronger office client from my understanding. However I do think it was a necessary evil. Ms can't afford for all those people to move to google docs or other alternatives.
- 08-01-2013, 10:41 PM #8
I have a Nexus 4, an iPhone 5, and a Lumia 520, and I like them all. Is something wrong with me? (I should edit my signature sometime. I have only 1 of these 3 phones anymore!)
08-02-2013, 05:03 AM #10
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Let's face it. There are people on the other platforms who will flat out not switch. Microsoft needs to ensure its other products are available particularly in this case where other office alternatives are encroaching on the same space. I'm pretty sure it is going to need a 365 subscription as well. So if anyone one on Android uses/wants/needs MS office on their platform, they got it; and Microsoft will be getting some money for it. Not that big of a deal I don't think.
08-02-2013, 11:14 AM #13
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Bringing Windows Phone 8 up to the competition is the move this platform needs, not exclusivity that hurts the core business.
08-02-2013, 11:24 AM #15
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For the average user I think not. But MS is again shooting itself in the foot with business and corporate users when they should have been leveraging and marketing the hell out of exclusivity.
This is a significant slash in the death of a thousand cuts imo.
- 08-02-2013, 12:22 PM #16
Office was never a strong enough reason to warrant a switch of a platform especially one in which some have invested heavily. Having said that, Office accounts for a significant part of MSFT income, moreso than WP, so they have to ensure their customers, their Office customers are taking care of. I am a heavy office user, I use Office 365, and I installed it for a while on my phone, but I don´t really use it. I have Office on my Laptop (a MacBook Air so portability is not a problem). I don´t find my phone or tablet to be ideal for the kind of work I have to do in Office. My tablet (A Nexus 7) is only an entertainment device for that matter.
SO was it an advantage to WP? Sure. Did it give them a huge lead? No.
- 08-02-2013, 01:02 PM #17I have a Nexus 4, an iPhone 5, and a Lumia 520, and I like them all. Is something wrong with me? (I should edit my signature sometime. I have only 1 of these 3 phones anymore!)
08-02-2013, 03:03 PM #18
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a) not every consumer will pick up a office 365 subscription other than a enterprise or business's implementing BYOD policies as it is cheaper than shelling out for company phones.
b) MS is transitioning to become a device and services company and in order to do so they must be relevant therefore as people have said it would make them reliant on it more.
Lets face it Google has started to creep into schools which was traditionally MS's domain. Also as office becomes more and more popular on Android it will most likely drive down the dependency on Google Docs thus pissing off Google more lol (less data to mine and sell) - hopefully this would enable people to make smoother transition from Android to WP.Can't believe this has to be posted lol..
Vote on both please for MS to retain the back button!
Mine: (unfortunately when I searched nothing came up hence the double post T_T)
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08-03-2013, 01:02 AM #20
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IMHO... this is a good move. I don't believe any part of this decision centred on the Android/WP8/iOS issues at all. What IS of enormous interest to Microsoft is getting corporates into a Microsoft-centric cloud. That means having a compelling BYOD story for bread-and-butter Corporate, Enterprise, Government, NGO/non-profit, etc, whose IT Shops want BYOD ASAP; even if just to head off BYOC :-)
If you have any doubts of just how good a move it is, just cast your mind back to TCP/IP, or X.500/X.400, or Java, or Perl, or... you get the picture. If its 'open', standardised (i.e. not Apple) and popular (a potential threat), Microsoft can 'embrace and extend' so quick it'll make your head spin.
With the corporate's in mind, I think the rusted-on MSDN folks will always have the edge WRT the app-cloud integration and especially AD-DS. If those developers can't leverage the WPx platform and OS to make better apps than Android/Java/Flash/iOS coders, then they'll deserve extinction. I think it very unlikely and moreover, predict upcoming Visual Studio releases to feature (good) Android dev tools; notwithstanding they'll never ship the same day as the Windows ones. Now, THAT is how you have your cake and eat it too :-)
- 08-03-2013, 02:29 AM #22
Considering the fact that they already have a ton of free alternatives to choose from, it's not really a big deal.I'm also over at the Moriya Shrine! Go there if you're also a fan of Touhou. After all, it is a small community, like WP, right?
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