02-08-2013, 02:44 AM #1
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Just remember when Apple was going under and Microsoft bought a huge part of Apple's shares which got them out of trouble, and later ended in Apple taking major ground in the mobile market while Microsoft was accused of monopoly, therefore couldn't really fight back. All of this lead to all of you hating on Microsoft, citing the 10 years old arguments from Apple's anti-Microsoft ads campaign and other arguments related to Windows XP which is freaking old. So who is evil?
Of course Microsoft and Apple are not evil... Big companies can sometimes exaggerate and it can have a huge impact on our society, but you must be able to understand that they only try to get you to hate on their competitors to get more "control" over you. Apple Macs are not better than the equivalent Windows PC, they simply have a more consumer centric approach then pre-windows 8 versions. Microsoft has to please IT and consumers, which is not an easy task and Windows 8 (when you get used to it) is doing good in both scenarios.
You probably guessed that it's not EXACTLY like this every single time, but the general idea is here.
Most of the hate comes from too many ignorant people meeting and reinforcing their ignorance. And this is valuable for anything in life if you think about it... Checking facts matters or else you look silly when you try to explain why Microsoft's deal with Dell is just another evil plan from Microsoft to take over Dell and bring it to it's grave.
- 02-08-2013, 07:11 AM #2
No one I know who uses Apple products think that. Most of them have at least one Microsoft product - usually their pc/laptop.
And besides, anyone who would bring up arguments about the IE thing from 1997 or the blue screen of death is clutching at straws anyways and is incapable of reasonable discourse.My next phone...
- 02-08-2013, 10:01 AM #3
Microsoft and Apple seem to be playing nice these days. A friendly barb here and there in ads, but nothing mailicious. If Gates and Jobs could mend fences, it's time they moved on as well. They need a united front to pimp slap google anyway
- 02-10-2013, 09:58 AM #4
I'm an Apple loving guy who also loves his Windows Phone and has no hate for Microsoft.
There are pros and cons to both. I use a Mac OS X machine and a Windows 7 computer and I've found things to like about both of them. I prefer Mac OS X, but I love Windows 7 as well. I don't care for iOS at all and I am pleased Microsoft offers such an appealing alternative.
I see a lot more Microsoft hate coming from Google/Android fans these days than I do from Mac users.
- 02-11-2013, 02:16 PM #5When some of my Apple loving friends tell me how evil Microsoft is I always take some time to say...
or is that just me?
02-11-2013, 08:43 PM #8
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- 02-12-2013, 09:52 AM #9
I'm so tired of hearing how Microsoft saved a company that was worth more than $2 billion with a $150 million dollar purchase of non-voting stock.
Apple spent more than the amount Microsoft invested in them on the first 3 months of the ad campaign for the first iMac.
If anything, Microsoft's commitment to develop a new version of MS Office for the Mac did more to help Apple than the money.
The truth is they both got something from the agreement.
Apple got to sell $150 million of non-voting stock and a commitment to develop a new version of MS Office for the Mac.
In return, Apple agreed to drop their lawsuits against Microsoft and to make Internet Explorer the default browser on Mac OS 9.
That is the REAL story.
- 02-12-2013, 09:57 AM #10~Sal
02-12-2013, 10:22 AM #12
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The only evil company here is the one that has 3 or 4 x profit margin on their phones and 100 billion in the bank. How can people support them knowing they overprice everything and brag about ripping you off at every live Apple event?
I guess only blind fans like Socialcarpet understand why they let Apple get away with huge mark ups.
- 02-12-2013, 10:42 AM #13My next phone...
- 02-12-2013, 11:02 AM #19
02-12-2013, 11:27 AM #22
- 783 Posts
I love how some of these guys who claim to not be fanboys only seem to have a problem with MS and anyone that tries to defend MS. I wonder why they aren't going on Android and Apple forums to share their "levelheadedness" with those folks and teach them a thing or two about their biases.
02-12-2013, 12:27 PM #24
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- 02-12-2013, 12:43 PM #25
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