- 11-17-2012, 08:56 AM #26
If Windows 8 PC's (whateaver sales of them are left), laptops, Tablets, convertibles (guess they are a different class these days), Windows Phone 8, the new IE, Skype, the new Outlook, and the XBOX and it's brand (music, videos, pod casts ECT.) all add up to great growth and strong cross platform profits, everyone can agree Mr. Ballmer should stay, right?
If not, we all can agree MS needs new leadership, right?
So the short answer:
Steve Ballmer more or less gets one more chance. There is too much invested in this launch and Microsoft has been pointing at this time frame for too long to pretend that he will not get credit if it works or get get the blame if it doesn't.I find your lack of faith disturbing. - Darth Vader
- 11-17-2012, 08:58 AM #27I find your lack of faith disturbing. - Darth Vader
- 11-17-2012, 10:04 AM #28
- 11-17-2012, 10:50 AM #29
Longtime Microsoft people have to understand that change is difficult, but necessary. The desktop is going to die, and if it isn't Microsoft who kills it, it will be someone else. It will go away. Flash is going away. A lot of what you're used to is going away.
The real question is -- will Microsoft cannibalize itself and lead the charge to the new technologies and ways of doing things, or will it sit in the past and rage against the future, while the future eats its lunch? Ballmer seems quite committed to leading the charge -- and that's a good thing.
And the challenge for longtime Windows users is this -- change or resist change. I remember lots of people in my Atari ST days as a teenager who swore that they'd never buy anything new and would stick with STs, TTs and Falcons forever, because Windows lacked pre-emptive multitasking, or rapid SLIP, or proper desk accessories. Those are all obsolete concepts, and they've all long since moved on... and if Atari had led rather than followed, perhaps I'd be using an STZ or some such machine today instead of a Dell and a MacBook.
- 11-17-2012, 10:56 AM #30
- 11-17-2012, 11:04 AM #31
And HTML5 on IE 10 scored lower than Chrome which is enough for most people to say "IE 10 does not worth crap" also you have to switch from the Metro-IE10 to the desktop version to see a video that is based on flash player... how annoying is that...
The switch from Flash to HTML5 will not be done by tomorrow simply because Microsoft failed to include it in it's Metro-style IE10.... count at least 2 years before Flash is dead...
- 11-17-2012, 11:46 AM #33
This article talks a little bit about the judgment.
Department of Justice’s long oversight of Microsoft to end | Ars Technica
MS actually had government reps in departments for the past ten yrs. Their only job was to look over product plans and determine if MS is trying to tie products together, violating the judgment.Thanked by:
11-17-2012, 12:14 PM #35
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- 11-17-2012, 12:38 PM #37
From this article:
"Microsoft has allowed PC vendors to put stickers on their systems saying that they are "Vista ready," when the system could run only Vista Home Basic, which does not allow many of the core features of Vista to run. The suit maintains that it was unreasonable of Microsoft to assume that every person to whom it was marketing Vista could understand the system requirements.
PCs need at least 512MB of RAM, a processor capable of operating at 800MHz or faster and a graphics processor that is DirectX 9-capable to be classified as "Vista capable." However, the suit alleges that it was not clear from Microsoft's advertising and marketing around Vista that while a system may be advertised as "capable," it may be incapable of running many of the advertised features of Vista, such as the Aero desktop."
- 11-17-2012, 12:51 PM #39
I did small business support on Vista for Microsoft. Besides the hardware driver issues, they did a poor job of marketing it. Told one of the execs that was down for training that. He asked how. Told him why didn't they publicize more about features like ready boost, snap and other such things like scrolling through active windows. Features that people like about Windows 7 but weren't really pushed in Vista. They stressed more about bit locker and security, which the home consumer isn't worried about.
- 11-17-2012, 12:51 PM #40
Microsoft just had to pay the EU again, since its "browser choice" had been forgotten about.Microsoft says it forgot to offer people a browser choice, EU investigating | Marketplace.org
11-17-2012, 05:15 PM #41
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A good CEO knows what his or her strengths are. Getting up on stage is not one of them for this guy. He has made some good moves and he has made some really big zingers. his best move was a deal with Nokia. his worst move was not buying it. Leaving it Nokia running pure windows tablets and phones. The man has no vision! As for the stock for me it hovers between $26.00- $29.00 per share. Is it undervalued in some ways yes. Then it's not so much the price of the stock but the dividends that stock pays.
- 11-17-2012, 05:32 PM #42
MS is almost completely redefining who they are. They're making some pretty radical changes. I think it's a huge stretch to claim he doesn't have vision.
He may make different decisions than you would. Sure. But that doesn't mean he doesn't have vision.
- 11-17-2012, 08:46 PM #43
On the major smartphone platforms, Flash is dead.
Flash doesn't work well on Windows 8. It doesn't work at all on Windows RT or the iPad. And it has been discontinued on the Android tablet platform (and doesn't work reliably as of Android 4.1).
On the major tablet platforms, Flash is dead.
On the Mac, Flash isn't included, and runs poorly. On Windows 8 and Windows 7 PCs, Flash isn't included (and is often banned by IT departments due to its security risks).
On the major PC platforms, Flash is dead.
The two major smartphone platforms that pushed Flash compatibility were Palm webOS and BlackBerry Playbook.
Palm and Playbook are dead.
I could keep going, but I think you get the idea. ;)
And HTML5 on IE 10 scored lower than Chrome which is enough for most people to say "IE 10 does not worth crap"
Incidentally, IE10 on Windows Phone 8 outscores Android 4.0 for HTML5 compatibility and performance.
also you have to switch from the Metro-IE10 to the desktop version to see a video that is based on flash player... how annoying is that...
For legacy sites that haven't updated to HTML5 because the content isn't being updated anymore, there are legacy viewers on all major platforms (including WP) to "translate" the sites.
The switch from Flash to HTML5 will not be done by tomorrow
Flash is as relevant as BlackBerry 7... a legacy technology that most developers can ignore without a lot of risk. Even Adobe has abandoned development of the client on most platforms, and repositioned itself as a company focused on delivering HTML5 solutions.
- 11-17-2012, 09:12 PM #44
As brmiller said, Adobe Flash (and other Adobe products) comprise the majority of the top 10 programs with security vulnerabilities per Kaspersky's latest report.
IT Threat Evolution: Q3 2012 - Securelist
The Top 10 vulnerabilities are listed in the table below.
№ Secunia ID – Unique vulnerability number Vulnerability name and link to description What the vulnerability lets malicious users do Percentage of users on whose computers the vulnerability was detected* Date of latest change Rating 1 SA 49472 Oracle Java Multiple Vulnerabilities DoS-attack
Gain access to a system and execute arbitrary code with local user privileges
Gain access to sensitive data
35,00% 20.08.2012 Highly Critical 2 SA 50133 Oracle Java Three Vulnerabilities Gain access to a system and execute arbitrary code with local user privileges 21,70% 31.08.2012 Extremely Critical 3 SA 50354 Adobe Flash Player Multiple Vulnerabilities Gain access to a system and execute arbitrary code with local user privileges
Gain access to sensitive data
19,00% 25.09.2012 Highly Critical 4 SA 49388 Adobe Flash Player Multiple Vulnerabilities Gain access to a system and execute arbitrary code with local user privileges
Bypass security systems
18,80% 18.06.2012 Highly Critical 5 SA 47133 Adobe Reader/Acrobat Multiple Vulnerabilities Gain access to a system and execute arbitrary code with local user privileges 14,70% 11.01.2012 Extremely Critical 6 SA 47447 Apple QuickTime Multiple Vulnerabilities Gain access to a system and execute arbitrary code with local user privileges 13,80% 23.08.2012 Highly Critical 7 SA 49489 Apple iTunes Multiple Vulnerabilities Gain access to a system and execute arbitrary code with local user privileges 11,70% 10.07.2012 Highly Critical 8 SA 46624 Winamp AVI / IT File Processing Vulnerabilities Gain access to a system and execute arbitrary code with local user privileges 10,90% 03.08.2012 Highly Critical 9 SA 50283 Adobe Shockwave Player Multiple Vulnerabilities Gain access to a system and execute arbitrary code with local user privileges 10,80% 14.08.2012 Highly Critical 10 SA 41917 Adobe Flash Player Multiple Vulnerabilities Gain access to a system and execute arbitrary code with local user privileges
Bypass security systems
Gain access to sensitive data
9,70% 09.11.2010 Extremely Critical
- 11-19-2012, 04:41 AM #48
This op grinds my gears with his misinformed rants
And what's really funny is that so many of my friends, that didn't know about windows phone 7, are talking all about windows 8 and windows phone 8
Sent from something uhmayzing using my pinkieNokia Lumia 520 owner here...
- 11-19-2012, 09:50 AM #49
And regarding Windows phone 8... all they do is point out what WP8 can't do that Android and iOS can do.
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