- 01-01-2012, 04:10 AM #152
GH: yep, read the whole thing! Agree with lots.
Have to chuckle at back to back posts from different people where one fusses about the colors being too pastel and the next fusses about the colors being too bright.
Both bring up the point that with the multitude of colors these devices can display why are we so limited in our on board choices?
I really do hope that MS is listening to the suggestion box app and the uservoice site!
Welcome to WP 7!
- 01-03-2012, 11:08 PM #153
hey everyone, just switched to focus flashi? flashs? flashes?, had everything webos. still do, boxes galore. touchstones mounted in all 5 vehicles, everywhere in the house. why the **** doesnt the battery move on this wp7? single tasking has me quite irritated at times, havent fully learned the correct process of actions to get things done as efficiently or quickly as with webos.i love my pre3 but was worried about breaking it at work, so its now my home phone.
i am happy i got the flash, it feels good in my hand, the s and the titan just felt weird, even weirder on the side of my head. phone calls from the touchpad felt more natural. i was gunna wait for the lumia line to drop, but seeing the specs, the focus is damn near the same. it works well. i like it. wish the cam was better, but i have a nice camera so .... yeah i may have to revisit that restocking fee depending on next week. i like it though i swear lol
- 01-04-2012, 12:47 AM #154
"... touchstones mounted in all 5 vehicles, everywhere in the house."
I'm hoping someone can develop an inductive charging option for WP 7 devices. Would be great to great to keep using my touchstones. One saving grace is at least the cable fits!
"why the **** doesnt the battery move on this wp7? " if you are talking about the power indicator; that's one of the perks of WP7 - its not power hog! ENJOY!
"single tasking has me quite irritated at times" not sure what you are experiencing there. Ive been able to do several things at once withn my Arrive.
"havent fully learned the correct process of actions to get things done as efficiently or quickly as with webos" yeah, even after using mine for a few months, I'm still figuring some things out too, but probably if I delved more into the help sections and websites I'd come up to speed.
This forum is full of suggestions and helpful people. Welcome to WP7!
- 01-04-2012, 04:23 PM #155
yeah this thing has liller battery life, and I am a 'power user'.
If the back plate wasn't metal it would be easy to hack the touchstone onto it, I am on the lookout for another back.
my only real complaint so far is the unified 'sharing' options. Being spoiled with webos, and always posting .imgs on forums, I still haven't found an easier way than to share w/email, copy the URL and post to the forum. From there I have to edit the URL to embed which is redonculious lol
- 02-23-2012, 06:24 PM #156
Hi, another webos refugee here. My Pre- is dying and I am going to get a WP, I have my eye set on Nokia 710($260 new from rogers) but then I come accross the Dell venue pro. As a Pre user the slide out keyboard make it very interesting, can anyone tell me the pro and con about those 2?
The only thing I hate webos is no MSN messager, how is it on WP? I would assume it work flawlessly right?
- 03-23-2012, 02:08 AM #157
I finally bit the bullet...
I have the same handle on PreCentral (WebOSNation). I have been with the Pre since day one back in '09. Back around Christmas time my Pre went on the fritz and I had to switch to my old dumb phone while I planned my next move (and hope for Sprint/Nokia to make an announcement). My fiance, God bless her, got me a Pixi as a surprise 2 months ago. I had enough of that. Just the day before yesterday, I bought an HTC Arrive on eBay. I'll be getting it this weekend on Saturday.
I joined WPCentral back on August 20th, after HP's debacle, to see what I can learn about Windows Phone, especially after hearing about Mango; but I wasn't ready to give up my beloved Pre. Well actually, I was ready to give up the Pre, I wasn't ready to give up webOS. The Pixi was so under-powerd that I couldn't do any multi-tasking. I actually have an unlocked Pre2, but I won't be giving AT&T my money (just because of their coverage where I live) and I don't want to convert it into a FrankenPre2. I'm hoping that maybe I'll put Open webOS on it in the future and toy with it on a pre-paid plan.
I'm looking forward to a device that not only works, but is also supported by it's developer/manufacturer. What I'm not looking forward to is the lack of Just Type, webOS style multi-tasking, and the form-factor; but after reading the threads here I know that the pros will outweigh the cons. Certainly iOS and Android in all of its flavors is not an option for me. I was tempted to consider a Blackberry due to the form factor, but then my better judgement got the best of me.
Ultimately what won me over was Microsoft's vision of an integrated ecosystem (the UI is the next best thing to webOS too). A vision that HP teased me with and ultimately cancelled before it ever got off the ground. I have an Xbox and will be upgrading to Windows 8 when it comes out, so the Arrive will have some advantages that other phones on Sprint will not have.
Well that's enough for now, I'll be posting my experience with the Arrive in a few weeks.
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- 03-23-2012, 08:50 AM #159
Pulled out my HP TouchPad because I haven't used it lately. Holy crap, it was like stepping into a time machine. The OS felt so outdated and underpowered. Maybe I've just gotten used to the smoothness of WP7 and iOS, but it was a quick reminder why the TouchPad wasn't ready for prime time.
Last edited by HeyCori; 03-23-2012 at 09:03 AM."Engineering is more than just the number of megapixels." - Stephen Elop
03-23-2012, 10:07 AM #160
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- 03-23-2012, 10:59 AM #161
Just sold my TouchPad and accessories on eBay for more than I paid for them. My Pre3 is next to go after I pick up a Lumia 900. The new iPad fills my tablet needs.
I was following WP7 for a while until HP picked up webOS. That's the only reason it piqued my interest. After HP killed it, I drifted back this direction but hadn't found a phone I liked until the Lumia 900.
webOS was a good OS that was just crowded out of the market. In the end, there will be only two and they'll be the usual players: Microsoft and Apple. Sorry, Android, but your fragmentation will become an issue at some point. HP sold more discontinued TouchPads than all Android tablets combined. And HP will be back with a TouchPad for W8.
- 03-23-2012, 11:17 AM #162
I really, really, want a Lumia! I'm hoping that this rumor of an LTE Windows Phone on Sprint is a Lumia. In the mean time, the Arrive should get me accustomed to Windows Phone and it's virtual keyboard.
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- 03-23-2012, 03:39 PM #163
Also, the Venue Pro has issues and will never have tethering etc.
Just get a slab phone and feel the pain that the rest of us feel who have lost "Just-type" and webOS. I like WP7, but simple phone/text/email tasks take MANY extra steps compared to just-type on webOS.
- 03-27-2012, 01:44 AM #164
Amazingly, for all the time I have kicked around WP Central, I never noticed this thread. I loved my Pre Plus. I loved how it worked, the multi-tasking, the shortcuts, the portrait slider which has been my favorite form factor since I owned a Motorola Karma feature phone way back in the day, the "just type" function, the whole bit. I was going to wait on upgrading until WeBOS from HP had a good device on AT&T or Verizon. I really thought Big Red would get it after they grabbed the Pre 2. I was really irratated when HP bailed.
I spent a ton of time playing around with Android, iOS, and WP after that. (I had owned Blackberry before and my wife had stuck with it. Found it too stale and unenjoyable to use for my taste.) WP just won me over. The potential is near unlimited, and I like the pace Microsoft is working with it. They would rather do all their OS well than try to do everything all at once. So, they may be moving a little slow, but the WP community they are building will be very loyal due to the product being dependable.
I am very curious to how former WeBOS users think of the chances of our former smartphone of choice being open sourced. I think it is a complete pipedream, and that HP will have to come up with a different plan. Any thoughts?"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."- Ben Franklin.
- 03-27-2012, 10:45 AM #165
I had a Sprint Pre since launch day and last fall went to an HTC EVO 3D after HP brought the ax down on webOS devices. Now I'm with WP7 and quite happy. You may not have seen the news, but HP is open sourcing webOS. It will be released in full open source glory later this year. HP is releasing parts of webOS each month into the open source pool.Rob
Lumia 620 on T-Mobile USA
- 03-28-2012, 03:17 AM #166
I am not sure how it finds a home with open sourcing. There is a ton of competition in this mobile world, and devlopment takes a ton of money. That was the whole problem with webOS (spelled correctly. Not sure why I was spelling it wrong). HP saw the amount of resources that was going to have to go into supporting the software side of the OS and just couldn't bring themselves to commit.
Now, as a hardware company, I could still see HP getting on the tablet market and giving it a go, but without true backing from a software giant to get it off the ground who picks up the bill for the development of the OS? Google was in a position to use an OS to open the door to other money streams, so when they grabbed and developed Android they were in a position HP is not. Not to mention the Smartphone industry was just taking off- Google's timing was perfect.
I would love the idea that HP gets some interested parties, webOS is seen as a viable product, and that it ends up on some devices. But I actually see the attempt of open sourcing by HP as a way to get some improvements on the OS and increase it's value to sell off and recoupe it's investment. I just do not see an advantage for companies to develop it when ready-to-order OS's are out there, Intel is still working on tizen (maybe with Samsung and Bada, though I haven't heard anymore on that rumor), and BB10 may end up as an option as well if RIM needs a cash injection once it is out.
That why I asked. I am looking for some hope we might see another device again. Give me reason to hope."Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."- Ben Franklin.
- 03-28-2012, 03:36 AM #167
I Like my Arrive, its been a better move for me than to Apple or Android - not that I've had either of those devices in my hand other than demo models. WP7 seemed more of a "natural" progression from the Palm Pre. But yes, there are a few things I do miss - but I have to remind myself that my Palm Pre was ebered, and hacked and overclocked, and home brewed unlike my Arrive, which remains stock with just additions of apps to suit me.
I would have preferred a portrait slider for quick one handed input, but the landscape slider works nicer for longer notes.
HP did us loyal palm users dirty. Will they win me back by open sourcing webOS? Maybe - unless Microsoft actually LISTENS to the user suggestions - for pete's sake with over 11,000 votes requesting to turn on the ability for custom alert sounds and tones - WHY are they not listening?
I miss my palm calendar. The WP7 calendar just doesn't cut it - if I was still using the phone to schedule my former service business, I'd end up going back to a paper organizer! We need a PROPER week at a glance as well as a readable Month view! I can zoom to view on so many other apps and pages - WHY NOT in calendar's MONTH view?
SO if HP offers full open source of webOS - will that mean new devices too? Or simply a rewrite/revamp of the OS on the old devices?
I love the Arrive's screen - - blows the Palm Pre out of the water! Like its crisp snap and strong hinge of the slider - no Palm Pre oreo effect. No creak and crunch of a plastic casing. Will open sourcing allow say, a purchase of an Arrive, then an install of webOS to use the Arrive's processor, screen and hardware? THAT would be my perfect device!
If open sourcing means HP creates a new device to utilize webOS - NO! I will NOT shuck out any more money to HP! I'll stick with WP7 Thank you very much!A Palm Pre Refugee giving my HTC Arrive a pat on the back- cuz it's choking!
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