[electriclamb]

Are we up for next wednesday?

[theefman]

Much better if we don't take things like this too seriously, all these games and apps are going to come to the relevant platforms eventually, so enjoy it when it gets here.

[Jazmac]

Blackberry a gaming platform? Talk about a bridge too far.

[JMBasquiat]

Is it native or an Android port? If the latter, than Android has Nova, not BB.

[WavingReds]

Is it native or an Android port? If the latter, than Android has Nova, not BB.

most likely and definitely the latter since somehow they have now "100k" apps since launch

[Laura Knotek]

Moved to BlackBerry forum.

[Lumiaddict]

Do they have the Dark Knight? Its all about wheelin and dealin..they paid enough to get NOVA first...just business

[Elwe Feanorfin]

It is Native. All Gameloft, EA and other games from top game publishers are native.

[samab]

most likely and definitely the latter since somehow they have now "100k" apps since launch

I can tell you that it is DEFINITELY a native BB10 game.

BB10's android runtime can ONLY do 100% Dalvik apps. If you have even a single line of c/c++ codes in your Android app, your Android app will NOT function on BB10.

It is technically IMPOSSIBLE to make any decent massive 3D game such as Nova 3 without c/c++ codes. And it is technically IMPOSSIBLE for BB10 to run Android apps with even a single line of c/c++ codes. Therefore Nava 3 is a native BB10 game.

[samab]

Do they have the Dark Knight? Its all about wheelin and dealin..they paid enough to get NOVA first...just business

They will have Dark Knight this week.

Gamelofts Batman Dark Knight Coming to BlackBerry 10 This Month - BerryReview

It is less about wheelin and dealin --- it is just easier to port a pure c/c++ game from iOS (that is kinda UNIX) to QNX (which is POSIX) and they both use OpenGL and OpenAL.

[Lumiaddict]

It has more to do with money than you're believing. Why would ATT be the only company to have the iPhone at launch if wheeling and dealing weren't a factor in todays game?

[samab]

It has more to do with money than you're believing.

Sure, for the first game --- i.e. the original Angry Birds --- I am pretty sure both RIM and Nokia paid money to the developer for the port. But the rest of the franchise, that will be determined by how many RIM and Nokia users purchased the first game and how many man-hours they have to spend to port over the rest of the franchise. Also Gameloft already ported over NOVA 2 to the Playbook in January 2012. There is no conspiracy here --- Gameloft already had the experience in porting over to QNX and it is simply easier to port from iOS to QNX when both are unix-esque and both use OpenGL and OpenAL. If there was ever money changing hands --- it would have been NOVA 2 for the Playbook last year, not NOVA 3 this year.

Less than 20% of the 100,000 BB10 apps are repackaged Android apps. Numerically it makes sense because the majority of mobile apps for all platforms are games and games are coded in native c/c++ codes --- which BB10's android runtime cannot run.

BlackBerry Z10: My First Week - Mobility - Smartphones -

[Lumiaddict]

I'm not perceiving it as a conspiracy. My opinion is that release dates on diff platforms are contractually devised by agreements influenced by money. "we give you more than Apple if our release date is 3 months prior"

[Lumiaddict]

Less than 20% of the 100,000 BB10 apps are repackaged Android apps. Numerically it makes sense because the majority of mobile apps for all platforms are games and games are coded in native c/c++ codes --- which BB10's android runtime cannot run.

BlackBerry Z10: My First Week - Mobility - Smartphones -

I bought a playbook when they came out. Big mistake. They were lucky porting from android was possible or every single playbook would've been returned lol. Solid device though!

[jdhooghe]

I haven't played it but I'm seeing big apps coming to my Z10 all the time. We're supposedly in for some major updates by the end of the week(most likely tomorrow) which probably includes facebook. We got WhatsApp and it is much nicer than the WP8 version. BlackBerry is like Nokia but in charge of the OS. It's nice.

We also have jetpack joyride, airline apps, and Asphalt. It's growing and BlackBerry isn't sitting on their hands either.

[Lumiaddict]

How do you like the Z10? What apps are missing from the BB store?

[samab]

I'm not perceiving it as a conspiracy. My opinion is that release dates on diff platforms are contractually devised by agreements influenced by money. "we give you more than Apple if our release date is 3 months prior"

It's always influenced by money --- it's influenced by how much revenue NOVA 2 brought in from the Playbook, it's influenced by how much employee expenses you have to spend to port the game over. That's money as well.

[jlynnm350z]

Couldn't even play nova on my android tablet. Controls made it virtually unplayable, absolutely horrible. If BB version is anything like Androids version they can have it, and good riddance.

[samab]

Couldn't even play nova on my android tablet. Controls made it virtually unplayable, absolutely horrible. If BB version is anything like Androids version they can have it, and good riddance.

All these massive 3D games are direct iOS ports to QNX. It is simply easier to port from iOS to QNX than Android/NDK to QNX.

For example, Galaxy on Fire 2 is available on iOS and on Android --- Fishlabs didn't even bother to touch the Android source code, they ported GoF2 directly from the iOS source code to Playbook/BB10.

http://www.fishlabs.net/en/blog/ente...-the-playbook/

[jdhooghe]

How do you like the Z10? What apps are missing from the BB store?

I love the camera. I can't believe how sharp of a photo I can get. You can see some in the other thread in this sub-forum. While does have rows of icons, the OS isn't fixed on that. It is fixed on the active frames and the hub. I can't begin to tell you how useful the hub is. I also get notifications instantly whether it be facebook or app updates. The active frames allow you to do something similar to live tiles. You can choose how long it refreshes and it actually does! I do love the live tiles but I wish the things would update correctly. I have notifications options up the wazoo and the LED is amazing.

The apps are dependent on the person. Right now, I have Instagram, Pinterest, SkyDrive, Flipboard side loaded. There are native apps for jetpack joyride, beach buggy blitz, angry birds but to be honest, I don't play much games on it. I have Google Talk, Waze, Wallstreet Journal, NYTimes, kindle, Box and Dropbox support from within the OS, Pageonce, OpenTable, GasBuddy, Flixster, and of course facebook(which kind of sucks at the moment) and twitter. I also have Apollo, a Pandora client, Slacker, 8tracks, Evernote. My N64 emulator so I can play Ocarina of Time, United Airlines and Delta Airlines, TuneIn, Amazing Breaker, The Economist.

My battery lasts 12 hours and it is getting better day by day and I can swap out batteries whenever I want for more juice. I have a 32GB SDCard in there with the additional 16GB internal. I love it. The audio is on par with the iPhone but I wish it was on par with the 920.

[jdhooghe]

Definitely better than the WP8 store when it first started up. Also, when they update to the jellybean runtime, even more apps will be available. This is not to say that I don't like Windows Phone, I just hate Microsoft for the way they've been handling things.

[samab]

Definitely better than the WP8 store when it first started up. Also, when they update to the jellybean runtime, even more apps will be available. This is not to say that I don't like Windows Phone, I just hate Microsoft for the way they've been handling things.

Jellybean won't increase the numbers of apps being available because the limiting factor still exists --- which is if you have even a single line of native c/c++ codes in your android app, it will never run on the BB10. It doesn't matter whether BB10 has Android 15 runtime in 5 years time.

[jdhooghe]

Jellybean won't increase the numbers of apps being available because the limiting factor still exists --- which is if you have even a single line of native c/c++ codes in your android app, it will never run on the BB10. It doesn't matter whether BB10 has Android 15 runtime in 5 years time.

BB10 supports C++


Just saw BlackBerry post on twitter say that Skype, eBay, Viber, Plants vs Zombies, and Cut the Rope will be coming in the coming weeks

[samab]

BB10 supports C++

Just saw BlackBerry post on twitter say that Skype, eBay, Viber, Plants vs Zombies, and Cut the Rope will be coming in the coming weeks

BB10 does NOT support Android/NDK --- and that is NEVER going to change. If your Android app has even a single line of c/c++ code, then it will not function in BB10's android runtime.

Plants vs Zombies and Cut the Rope have been available on the Playbook for a long time, so that's not a surprise --- and these have been ported from the iOS version to native BB10/Playbook.

If you see an app that requires a lot of CPU power (like a massive 3D game), then that BB10 app is a native BB10 app ported from iOS versions. Just look at the Galaxy on Fire 2 example that I cited above. Angry Birds on BB10, ported from iOS version.

Nobody creates an app just for the Android platform --- they don't get paid enough money. So they already have an iOS version of their app. And if there is even a single line of c/c++ code in their app, then it is much easier to port their iOS version to BB10 than to try to port their Android version to BB10.

[lipper2000]

Definitely better than the WP8 store when it first started up. Also, when they update to the jellybean runtime, even more apps will be available. This is not to say that I don't like Windows Phone, I just hate Microsoft for the way they've been handling things.

LOL...

How have they been "handling things"...

I think they are doing a pretty awesome job...WP8 and W8 now have Unity, Marmalade and Havok middleware...the best games will come now much quicker to WP8 and Windows 8 at the same time...that means picking up on a game when you have paused it on one of the platforms...

I like BB but the Z10 is nothing to write home about and brings very little to the table, at least for me.

If it works for you, that is great. However, I think they are finished and have took a very bad decision to market a "high end" phone to a market that is saturated (North America and Europe) as opposed to also releasing cheaper devices for markets that will buy their product in mass quanity...

Nokia/MS have a much better battle plan...