- 01-09-2013, 09:33 PM #26
I was a huge Android basher, and with good reason. The force closes, lags, etc. made me feel I was still on PalmOS. But I recently used an HTC Sensation with a stock ICS ROM and I was truly impressed. Everything worked as it should and I didn't even bother rooting it to get the hotspot working without T-Mobile's permission as well as the BT PAN for connecting to my iPad 3. Unfortunately, even the best Android keyboards on the largest screens aren't as user-friendly as the WP7/8 VKB's. Heck, even the iPhone KB is better on a 3-1/2" screen. Fix the keyboard before MS puts in decent BT profiles and I may have a second look.
01-11-2013, 08:15 PM #27
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01-28-2013, 04:58 PM #28
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Well I had a Lumia 800 for 6 months and was constantly amazed by the number of things it couldn't do that my old E72 and a bottom of the range Android could.
From personalised text tones to being able to edit e-mail before forwarding, being able to set an sms to send automatically at a future time, being able to automatically turn itself to silent when I'm at work or if there is a calendar entry with the word " concert", being able to choose the snooze time, being able to access my online Bank account and any site using Mastercard secure code(as Android browser doesn't stupidly say their certificates are invalid the way Windows browser does)
Oh being able to use BBC iplayer, myplayer, ITV player for all UK television (ok I accept the E72 and cheap Android couldn't but Motorola Razr can)
Being able to set different volume levels for different functions.
And the Swype keyboard!
Lumia 800 was a ghastly phone. I was a loyal customer of Nokia's for around 15 years but we have parted unless they do go Android.
I really hate windows OS, felt like several steps back.
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- 01-29-2013, 08:28 PM #29
Reading many of these posts I see some have probably gotten a poor example of the Android experience because of the devices they used. Many mid to low end range models which unfortunately you get what you pay for. They have lesser quality processors, bare minimum RAM and basic displays and graphics processors. They make them look impressive with lots of little perks and 3rd party extras and slap the best Android version that the device is capable of handling on it. Many times the limited RAM alone is the killer in this situation as it would be with any platform. Android does like RAM and it likes to use it up to keep flowing smoothly. Carrier/OEM bloatware does suck and many people turn to either rooting their devices to manually remove or getting into the Nexus "Pure Google" phones to get away from bloatware.
Waiting on carrier updates is probably the biggest killer for many.. Google releases the code for its Nexus lineup and then its off to the OEMs to do with as they please. They tweak it and toy around with it a bit and add their custom UI's and bloatware but the biggest hold up is the carrier's and their extensive internal testing that causes the biggest delays.
Android may not be everyone's cup of tea but the same can be said for any platform. Myself I love Android and have owned Palm (webOS) too.. Maybe one day I'll check out a MS/Windows based phone and see if the other side is indeed greener ;)
- 01-31-2013, 11:08 PM #30
Paul627g - you make some valid points, but I think the hole in your argument is that people had a poor Android experience because they were using low-end devices. At least prior to Android 4.x (really Android 4.1), just about all Android OS devices provided a poor experience after they were owned for a period of time, regardless if they were high-end or low-end. The difference between the high-end and low-end Android OS devices prior to ICS/JB was how long your smartphone would last before the poor Android experience would set in. In either case, the poor experience almost definitely set in within a year. (I say that last statement based on my experience with my Motorola Droid 2, which was a high-end Android device at the time it was released.)
- 02-08-2013, 07:53 PM #31
I agree that before Android 4.0, Android was garbage and only excelled because it was pretty much the only iPhone alternative. However I also think the iPhone wasn't worth it till the iPhone 4. I recently switched from Windows Phone 7.8 (Lumia 900) to Android (Original Note), mainly because of apps that I really wanted to use and couldn't. It seemed like every week or two there was one more cool app I wanted to try and couldn't and I got tired of it. I love being able to use Pandora and Stitcher over my car's radio on my Note. I love having a notification center. Widgets, while not as good looking and organized as live tiles, can convey more information than live tiles. Windows Phone 8 has just as many short comings as Android, they are just different short comings. Neither is absolutely better than the other, it comes down to what an individual needs out of their phone. I'd even throw iOS into that previous statement.
07-16-2013, 05:07 AM #32
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I started using WP phone just very recently, formerly of Symbian, and had used Android for some 2 years. My current WP phone is Nokia Lumia 520, replaced my old Blackberry. Does that mean that I've jumped ship from Android? NO! In fact I am still proudly keeping my Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 and still use it extensively, side by side with my Lumia. I wanted to buy a WP simply because it offers a refreshing looks (the live tiles for instance)...besides, it is always interesting to try something new.
To me personally Android is a quite nice and pleasant OS. It is not flawless though: occasional lags and sudden reboots did happen, but in general I feel very satisfied all Android devices I have had (from Galaxy Tab 2 to my current Note 8), and when someone bashes Android so bad by saying it crappy, laggy, garbage etc, I don't have any idea what he/she's talking about (If Android does look and feel THAT bad, there's no way that sixty per cent or so of world's mobile users who embrace Android could all make terrible mistakes, right?)
In fact, even though I want to love my WP so bad, there is no way I can live without Android, for one simple reason: I am an avid gamer. Needless to say, I want to play games anywhere and anytime I want. That's where Android fills in, where WP ecosystem just can't provide good enough, at least for the time being. and here I don't talk about the likes of Angry Birds or Temple Run. We're talking about the PS Vita/3DS-style, best-looking games to ever grace mobile screens, whose presence we only see minimal in WP Store, but abundant in Apple's App Store and Google's Play Store..
I couldn't help but wondering why major publishers seems reluctant in releasing their sophisticated games in WP platform, while they are flooding the competitions. Day after day we'd see games are "available now on IPhone/Ipad and/or Android" - the formula would usually be, Iphone/Ipad version comes first, then followed by Android ones. WP one, if any, usually comes last, or otherwise, is skipped entirely.
See? I don't see any point in bashing Android. It fills the gap where WP is unable to reach. But also there is such place WP gets where Android could not match. Why not take the best from both? Neither is anywhere near perfection.
- 11-06-2013, 01:53 AM #36
11-06-2013, 02:10 AM #37
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I had a couple of Android phones on Virgin Mobile. It's been a while so they were Éclair and Froyo. OMG they drove me crazy. Weird reboots and such fairly frequently. Even though I liked Virgin Mobile, it saw no indication that they were going to get a Windows Phone so I jumped ship. I bought a new HTC HD 7 (however it had been released a year and a half earlier) and moved it to T-Mobile's old 100 min $30 plan.
I'm still running that HTC HD7 after a year and a half. I used a 810 for a little while but bought it during the period were you could hand it back in via the Washington State Attorney General case, and did exactly that. I can't (in reality, can) tell you how much more stable Windows Phone is than my old Android version phones were. Oh, I miss some of the apps and some of the customization, but no I will not go back to an Android phone.
I will likely buy a Nexus 7 tablet at some point as I wouldn't mind keeping my toe in the Android ecosystem. So I am not an Android "hater", I simply will not use Android on a phone...
Tomorrow I get an HTC 8x to update my HTC HD 7. Welcome back to Windows Phone 8. With luck I'll be able to sleep tonight....
- 11-06-2013, 02:17 AM #40
I miss sense 3.0 and ginger bread.
Currently I'm using an HTC EVO 3D running sense 3.6 and ics (its basically an HTC sensation (same year, slightly higher price) with a 3D camera but is just not as reliable)
- 11-06-2013, 06:26 AM #42
Android has improved so much since it's pre-ICS days. The multi-core processors make such a HUGE differences in the way Android runs. I will not say smooth, I do not think it will ever be smooth, but whatever glitches remain are more often due to OEM UI's then on Android itself. Problem is, pure Google handsets are few and far between. And that leave 97% of them with some kind of quirk that makes them buggy somehow. Throw in stinking carrier bloat here among the US, and you have what should be a device that works well ending up being kinda of a crap shoot.
I would be fine with Android, I am just glad I do not have to be. For what I do with a phone, WP just kicks Google's adopted child's tush. MS designed WP to be built from performance up, adding features as they go. Android had tons and tons of features, and has been struggling to get performance right ever since. I would rather have a phone do a little less, but do it all right as opposed to having a phone do everything... sorta.I find your lack of faith disturbing. - Darth Vader